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| Old_Bebi | Feb 28 2008, 02:54 AM Post #51 |
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Vegeta's Final Flash blasted through REGULAR Perfect Cell, only exerting enough power for a "warm up". As we've seen in Dragonball, when you're using more of your power, your defense rises, as well. Not only that, Cell allowed not only for the Final Flash to hit him, but for Vegeta to power it up as much as he could. Plus, we've seen many times that Cell will lower himself down to his opponent's level to get a good fight out of them, so those older fights are moot, anyway. Also, it was never stated that a one-handed Kamaehamaeha was any harder or weaker. Only foregoing the stance for a special attack, which happens quite a bit in the series (particularly with Vegeta's Big Bang). Nor was it ever said that Gohan's doubt was supressing his power. In fact, he stated he was giving it his all. |
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| Senka | Feb 28 2008, 11:07 AM Post #52 |
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Cell didn't lower his power to make the Big Bang hurt him, it did hurt him. Vegeta DID power it up all he wanted, the Kamehameha struggle was forever! If the other battles are moot, then case and point- there is no point. there are no facts. Akira Toriyama likes to bullshit with us. |
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| skydancer0805 | Feb 28 2008, 11:20 AM Post #53 |
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Bebi, you forget that Gohan has enough potential power to beat Super Buu, even at that point. This is, because Gohan has very little to no training over the course of seven years, then Old Kai releases his power and he becomes the most powerful single warrior. So Gohan was holding back somewhat, or he would have decimated Cell. If you look at the finale of the kamehameha blast fight, Gohan's has a HUGE surge in power when Goku makes him release more of his hidden power. |
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| nirvana | Feb 28 2008, 07:20 PM Post #54 |
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Yeah I know I own. By "I," I mean Gohan, of course. We've all seen this argument before and we all know it never ends. Basically, Gohan is imba powerful but he has no idea how to control his power. If he did, he would have raped Cell in a jiffy. That's the end of it. It's an "If..Then" situation, and we'll never know what woulda happened otherwise. |
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| Senka | Feb 28 2008, 07:28 PM Post #55 |
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wut u meen goku ddint com dwn nd us dble kamekameha? |
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| nirvana | Feb 28 2008, 07:47 PM Post #56 |
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Actually, Akira was gonna make Goku permanently dead after the Cell Saga and Gohan was gonna be Guardian of the Earth and Goku was gonna keep a role as Guardian of Otherworld; the "Father-Son" Kamehameha was supposed to depict him as a memory. Goku wasn't necessarily giving his strength to Gohan, but Gohan was finding strength through the memory of his father. Of course that plan went to failz when he got buttloads of hate mail. |
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| Old_Bebi | Feb 28 2008, 09:58 PM Post #57 |
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Um, regarding Gohan's latent power, he was WAY stronger in the Buu saga at that point than in the Cell saga. He had already been entered into the fray at that point, and wasn't the complacent scholar he was at the saga's beginning. And it wasn't that he didn't have control of that power, he didn't even have access to it. If he did, that beam duel wouldn'tve been nearly as hard for him as it was. And yes, Cell did lower his power against Vegeta. Well, he didn't lower it, he never raised it beyond the bare minimum after he got the form. I should get it out there that this kinda thing is fun, to me. I like debates. =D |
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