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Tasuda
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And I will 3rd that one.
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I think you had a choice. Goku did not have to fight frieza, but he did anyways. The only true stand out must fight I can see is FG vs. the androids and Gohan Vs. Cell. Otherwise, the other ones...your opponents could have easily been thwarted.

I mean if you were forced to battle left, right and center, with no breathers, people would get rather annoyed. someone (like Goten) has the potential of finding an easy target, and bam, bam, bam. Dead, alive, dead, alive, dead. It would be a never ending cycle. I can see such a thing being abused. I am not saying Goten is that person, I'm saying there is that potential. Am I making sense?

Basically: There would need to be safeguards in place to prevent any abuse.
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But if you look at it that Goku went looking for Frieza, Frieza didn't have a choice but to fight. That is the idea. The one that is being sought out didn't have a choice. But this would also allow maybe a bounty system, bigger alliances within alliances and more story as the enemies are rooted out and killed. That would be the upside to the issue. But I also think you need to be either evil or opposite alignment to do it as just attacking someone out of thin air when you are good is an evil act and would lower alignment.
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Now, switching from your "DBZ" point of view, you have to realize, that in this rpg, there is NO character development whatsoever. Having premade characters sort of ruins that effect. And even if you did 'develop' your character, nobody is going to care, because that's just how people are.
Me: Trunks now has a kind, gentle personality, with flowing long hair
Enemy: I don't freaking care. I'm going to beat you up either way, and pretend like you act and look like the Trunks from Dbz
I know for a fact that this can't be helped at all unless we take out all cannon characters, so I'm not going to complain about it..

What this means, is that there is absolutely no point in fighting anybody in this rpg. The fact that we know who has rare items or dragon balls fules us to go beat people up. It's logically impossible for bob here to find a dragonball, and suddenly the entire universe is rushing over to kill him. >_< (meaning if some new character finds a rare item, then need like a month or so leeway so that info. can travel)

Now, if we implement some other way of 'bounty hunting' people, both good and bad people would be able to hunt the people with bounties on them. Therefore, I could go pay bob here 100 zeni, to make a 50 zeni bounty for joe over there. Through this 3 way connection, it bypasses the entire rule of sneak attacks.

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I have to go do my english report, so I'm not going rant anymore for now... but bottom line is, we need to have an actual reason to fight, more distinct rules on why to fight, etc.

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Oh, and one more thing to edit in:

We seem to be battling how much to 'limit' players. In truth, Dbz is probably one of the very few shows, in which there's no reasonable way to set up boundaries. It's a fight an kill series, surrounded by lame plots. If you want to limit yourself by protecting yourself from super strong people, who worked to get to where they were, no offense, but go play Naruto :P
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How about another new master?

I think this was mentioned but what about the conquering planets feature for chaotic evil characters.

And maybe we could expand upon the idea of the different empires in the universe, in the way that they are rivals. Any ideas for this?
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Chibi Trunks,Nov 17 2008
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Now, switching from your "DBZ" point of view, you have to realize, that in this rpg, there is NO character development whatsoever. Having premade characters sort of ruins that effect. And even if you did 'develop' your character, nobody is going to care, because that's just how people are.
Me: Trunks now has a kind, gentle personality, with flowing long hair
Enemy: I don't freaking care. I'm going to beat you up either way, and pretend like you act and look like the Trunks from Dbz
I know for a fact that this can't be helped at all unless we take out all cannon characters, so I'm not going to complain about it..

well as this is an "RP" character development should happen instead of just simply getting by. And the badguy who seeks death shouldn't care anyway. This will just make things a bit more interesting. Besides then we can also add things for escaping other than what we already have which makes it impossible for weaker guys to escape.

Just overall as it is an rp, and people seem to have a hard time with character development, this would be a nice push.
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Correct Tasuda.

Plus, for the rest of you, you can't say that this wouldn't liven up the RPG right now, and prevent staleness. It'd keep everybody on their toes. It'd be exciting.
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I'm not a full fledged member, yet. But I thought I'd suggest Black Star Dragonballs and possibly more Jobs.
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Some sort of Planet Conquering System...


Maybe More Training Types:
Stat Specific Training- Enhances One Stat Greatly When compared to others.

Ex: Speed Training: +5 strength, speed, toughness, staminia, +35 speed


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Ljpunk,Nov 17 2008
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I'm not a full fledged member, yet. But I thought I'd suggest Black Star Dragonballs and possibly more Jobs.

this site is pretty much against GT so I doubt we'll see black star db's. lol. Besides, we'll all be living in ships as it would be a pain to try and gather and watch a huge war go on trying to gather them. They blow up the planet where the wish was made if they aren't returned.
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Well damn, logic prevails again. Alright, well, I'll just agree with the adding of more Super Saiyan transformations and the tail growing half breeds, lol.
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well adding more super saiyans essentially will be added later I am sure as we get to levels that make sense to include them.
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I must agree with the jobs. A Job that helps every stat not just 3 (str, spd, tou) Or maybe a job that mixes stats. An example:

Fencer: +2 spd, +2 str or something to that degree. not a great job name but hey.

How bout also we add the specifics of how determination will help you in battle as the determination description says. That would be most helpful. Maybe add +1 to Speed teleport when people hits 5,000 spd? And/or add more items to the baazar would also be a good suggestion.
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I am against evil people conquering Planets (even though I tend on trying to get my alligment to evil) as that is not fair on good people.

Example:

Evil guy conqueres Planet X and gets a certain amount of gains a week.

A better thing would be:

Evil: Can conquer Planets / Fight leader for Planet if he/she is a member and owns the Planet.

Good: Can defend Planets / Fight evil leader and give back to Planet, then defend it.

Evil: Gets gains for conquering and owning a Planet

Good: Gets gains for defending and defeating evil leader.

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This sounds hard but I have a fighting system which I believe would be good if it could be done.

I think strength should not count for winning and losing soly. Obviously Goten has 79k and I have 900 PL there is a large difference but I am talking smaller difference (But still quite big lol). It could be by how good you RP.

Plus your PL should be able to go up and down:

Up: If you train a lot or a certain amount it goes up by a certain percentage (If I train harder then someone who is stronger than me I would get a higher percentage).

Down: If the person has not trained for a long time and does not have a good reason for not training there PL could decrease slightly.

Example:

Teen Gohan (Cell Saga) was stronger that Adult Gohan (Buu Saga, before Mystic Gohan) because he was not training but studying.
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Tasuda,Nov 18 2008
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Ljpunk,Nov 17 2008
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I'm not a full fledged member, yet. But I thought I'd suggest Black Star Dragonballs and possibly more Jobs.

this site is pretty much against GT so I doubt we'll see black star db's. lol. Besides, we'll all be living in ships as it would be a pain to try and gather and watch a huge war go on trying to gather them. They blow up the planet where the wish was made if they aren't returned.

-runs around- Ahhh! I'm from GT! AHHH! -watches as people with anti GT pitchforks chase after her-
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I hope Oosaru doesn't go to half breeds, to me(besides certain super saiyan levels on the rpg) distinguishes fully the full blooded saiyans from the hybrids.
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Saiyan blood is saiyan blood, Zorn.
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Vegeta Jr,Nov 18 2008
10:09 AM
This sounds hard but I have a fighting system which I believe would be good if it could be done.

I think strength should not count for winning and losing soly. Obviously Goten has 79k and I have 900 PL there is a large difference but I am talking smaller difference (But still quite big lol). It could be by how good you RP.

Plus your PL should be able to go up and down:

Up: If you train a lot or a certain amount it goes up by a certain percentage (If I train harder then someone who is stronger than me I would get a higher percentage).

Down: If the person has not trained for a long time and does not have a good reason for not training there PL could decrease slightly.

Example:

Teen Gohan (Cell Saga) was stronger that Adult Gohan (Buu Saga, before Mystic Gohan) because he was not training but studying.

As far as the fighting system, it is mostly based off of rping. somone 20,000PL and someone 10,000 PL, the 10,000 PL though may have a harder time can still win. The stats are there so you can gage how painful getting hit would be.

Your idea of training harder is already implemented. Aka getting higher gravity levels, more weighted items, and so on.

as for going down for not training, that takes a large amount of time, and if you aren't training it is either because you are inactive or are doing something that will increase you anyway.
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I don't think I have seen a battle where the better roleplayer won. Just the stronger person. I can of course be wrong, and it may have happened before I came around.
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lol it's up to the players. As the weaker player you keep getting hit you will lose. It depends on how you fight and use your techs.
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Pan,Nov 18 2008
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Saiyan blood is saiyan blood, Zorn.

Of course it is mister/miss Pan. Mixed with human and well, basically the characters without tails in the series weren't able to go Oosaru..blood or no blood due(to I'm assuming) their tails being removed. Goten, Trunks are the only ones who come to mind while Goku Jr, Vegeta Jr and Pan's blood is just too diluted to go Oosaru.
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Zorn,Nov 18 2008
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Pan,Nov 18 2008
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Saiyan blood is saiyan blood, Zorn.

Of course it is mister/miss Pan. Mixed with human and well, basically the characters without tails in the series weren't able to go Oosaru..blood or no blood due(to I'm assuming) their tails being removed. Goten, Trunks are the only ones who come to mind while Goku Jr, Vegeta Jr and Pan's blood is just too diluted to go Oosaru.

With that argument, Vegeta Jr and Goku jr never should have been able to go SSJ.
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ummm... 1 word.... DBGT. It isn't cannon and Akira doesn't recognize it. DBAF which I've read the manga too isn't cannon to GT either as only full blooded saiyans can go ssj4 though Gohan can go SSJ4.
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I always thought Trunks had a tail as a baby for some odd reason.
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For some reason, although I can't remember if it was in the manga or the orginal japanese version of DBZ, I thought I remember Goku mentioning something to Bulma about already getting rid of Trunks tail the first time he saw him before the androids.

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