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Topic Started: Aug 15 2009, 11:43 PM (502 Views)
OldGoku222
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Hey. I know I'm not even really a part of all this yet. But I've been wondering. Especially in the case of saiyans. What happend to super saiyan 2, 3 and 4? Will that make saiyans to powerfull? What about making that available to saiyans. Then making different things available to other races. Like humans sounds like the weakest race so let a human be able to make a larger group than the other races. I know stupid. You can think of more creative stuff. It's 4 in the mornin by me. Alex how about making the dragons in GT available as characters but with a twist. The vetarans in the game tired of their character's perspective becomes a dragon. Or the strongest people here compete to become a dragon. I think attaining the dragon characters can be a sub-goal and new options the dragons can bring may be exciting.
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Well, the only thing about Super Saiyan 2, and so forth, is that no one has even reached Super Saiyan 1 yet.
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Wow. Guess i should've done more research. You know I wondered why I havn't seen somebody go super saiyan yet. Don't you think they should make that you can level up just a little faster. We all liked the first goku vs vegeta fight but we loved the ss2 goku vs majin vegeta fight. Anyways thanks for the support on my application. What do you think about the dragon characters though.
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Super saiyan 2 would take at least 200,000 PL, and not even Android 13 is that strong.
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The power levels must be changed then. Frieza's power level ws over a million in his final form and goku ss ws at around 1'2 million. Goku's ss3 and mystic gohan's power level was 450 million. Kid Buu ws 500 million. Gohan ss2 ws 270 million in the buu saga. Goku ss2 and majin vegeta 370 million. I knw the numbers are high but it is suppose to be attainable. And be attained before a player would want to change his character because he wants to fight from a diffrent perspectives when a super form would give him that without needing to change character. Transformations was one of dbz's most attractive features.
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Chizzah69,Aug 16 2009
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The power levels must be changed then. Frieza's power level ws over a million in his final form and goku ss ws at around 1'2 million. Goku's ss3 and mystic gohan's power level was 450 million. Kid Buu ws 500 million. Gohan ss2 ws 270 million in the buu saga. Goku ss2 and majin vegeta 370 million. I knw the numbers are high but it is suppose to be attainable. And be attained before a player would want to change his character because he wants to fight from a diffrent perspectives when a super form would give him that without needing to change character. Transformations was one of dbz's most attractive features.

Gohan>>>>>>>Kid Buu and SSj3 Goku, just so you know, but I'm not starting a discussion here.

Anyway, the system is fine as it is now, and we don't need more super forms as the ones we have now are pretty hard to get. Why would we even need to get our power levels to the millions, anyway?
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The transformations are supposed to be long term goals. They are already cut down enough to be obtainable. I don't think we need to cut them down anymore. And to inform you turles, any PL's after frieza saga is pure speculation and not fact. But that isn't a discussion for here.
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i think its fine as it is. "legendary" super saiyan. that term was given because it was impossible to achieve that power. Goku is 1 in agazillion rarities that will never be repeated. hence... super saiyan 4 will never be repeated. not to mention, this is a different dimension which isn't a parallel to DBZ. the site is fun and fair as it is, aspire to become a super saiyan. about the dragons, in my opinion, i have fun being my character; thats why i made him the way i made him. let the dragons be available to anybody. by the way, i liked the first goku v vegeta way better than when they were super saiyans to be honest.

with all of the putdowns said, i hope you get in soon!
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Lol yeah I get what you guys are saying about the power levels and transformations. When one of us finally reaches super saiyan though. What's the next transformational goal? Yeah there is still going to be other goals we can go for because I've seen how fun this site is the possibilities are infinate but strictly transformational there has got to be more. Just think about it. The dragons can be just extra characters. More people learning to be part of this more fun, more dbz aspects and with new members more creativity. Endless possibilities. Where my idea may be stupid they can come up with better ones or atleast maybe be great players even. My gf is studying law so I'm use to losing auguments so I'll let the transformations idea go for now lol but think about the dragons as extra characters atleast. Forget making a community let's forge a society.
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The problem with having the dragons is that we would have to leave out the earth dragon balls. And I think people would rather have the earth dbs accessible then left out.
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Not realy, the rpg is not 100% canon so why can't we have the dragons AND the earth dragon balls.

I don't really care though. There are plenty of untaken characters, and their strength has nothing to do with the anime. So being a dragon, a namek or a "weak" human doesn't mean shit here.
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Exactly, hence why you could have an eeeevil Goku.

Personally, i dont give a stuff about pls. I just like to rp and have fun. Stats are not everything :)
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Yeah there are enough untaken characters but the dragons can add to the fun because the characters available might not be the character you want. So the dragons would just add more choice. I've put too much emphasis on stats and anime relations but i still think it would be nice having a dragon race too.
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I personally think adding another race to this site would be a bit crap to be honest.

like people have said, we already have dragonballs, so roleplaying as a Porouga-type dragon would seem a little odd.

There is nothing stopping people from making a custom alien and playing a dragon like creature.
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Yeah i guess your right. There i still a lot of untaken characters left but keep the idea inmind when this place start getting full. Which I want because the more the marrier. And it's kinda contradictary to say the dragons and dragonballs can't co-exsist when a super saiyan 2 transformation isn't available yet. Why? Because although the Z fighters were one of a kind I still think Alex has the idea that we al have the potential to be great writters aswell as achive what those before us have. Why go play rugby for South Africa if you don't want to win the world cup again? Hope you guys can see that I'm not out to change the rpg into what I want. I just want to get that "read furr coat" those super saiyan 4 dudes wear and roleplay the balls off a dragon and at the same time still rock your world! ;) lol
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Chizzah69,Aug 16 2009
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Yeah i guess your right. There i still a lot of untaken characters left but keep the idea inmind when this place start getting full. Which I want because the more the marrier. And it's kinda contradictary to say the dragons and dragonballs can't co-exsist when a super saiyan 2 transformation isn't available yet. Why? Because although the Z fighters were one of a kind I still think Alex has the idea that we al have the potential to be great writters aswell as achive what those before us have. Why go play rugby for South Africa if you don't want to win the world cup again? Hope you guys can see that I'm not out to change the rpg into what I want. I just want to get that "read furr coat" those super saiyan 4 dudes wear and roleplay the balls off a dragon and at the same time still rock your world! ;) lol

This site is not following the cannon of the show as such, as I said before :)

Plus, there is noone close enough to even reach SSj1 yet, with #13 being the closest.

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Uh. Whatcha talking about, Geist? Thirteen is far over the requirement for Super Saiyan. Almost 80,000 over, actually.

And as for adding more SSJ transformations. They were left out because Super Saiyan 1 was mean't to be the only and most powerful form of the saiyans. Goku is a weird f*** who pushed it farther then anyone in history. (Not counting Broli, since GOKU was the original LSSJ) [At the end of the Frieza Saga, whenever Frieza died and Goku was now a SSJ; it was made that way, because that was supposed to be the end of DBZ. It was perfect. The evil tyrant was dead, and Goku was the legendary super saiyan, the one that only came about every one thousand years.]

Plus, that would mean SSJ had to be nerfed... big time. As in... SSJ would need to take the place of the fan-term transformation Giji Super Saiyan (Which was actually just an enrage Kaioken) and then SSJ 2 in the place of SSJ.

As for the dragons, I'd have to say that would be useless. Sure, they were good characters for what it was worth, but not noteworthy enough to be a character on the RPG. Some of them were huge and had unnatural powers. How could we compensate for that, since we wouldn't have gigantic people walking around unless it's a transformation, and we can't have people that can directly control thunder, or ice/fire unless it's a technique. It would require quite a few more techniques, probably "Dragon Only" ones at that.
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Yea...what Digu said. The dragons were total godmoders...they only lost because Goku is a bigger godmoder...he ate a frekin dragonball to live...tell me how that makes sense

Edit: Yea, That would be totaly unfair if people had to face gigantic dragons...It would suck
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I thought the requirements for ssj were 200,000, my bad.
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hmmm... just a thought, since your so eager to see the dragons on the rpg. what if there was a site wide sage where the dragons were actually the enemies. Maybe after the dragonballs are used 7 times.
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Yogi,Aug 16 2009
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hmmm... just a thought, since your so eager to see the dragons on the rpg. what if there was a site wide sage where the dragons were actually the enemies. Maybe after the dragonballs are used 7 times.

I can totally see that working.
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Well the super saiyan forms, I'm sure more things will be added as people reach those peaks. So i wouldn't could ssj2 or 3 out yet. But it'll be awhile.
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but then everyone else would need another trans to make it equal...so there would have to be a lot more work included
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As we all know Goku was a low-level saiyan but he was hard working. I think we can carry that with us when eventually other transformations are made available. I wasn't asking for a now but just for a possiblity and happy you guess gave your opinions because your ideas can make it a possibility.
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On other sites you go up by the millions, but it's fuckin' easy to get the PL along with the transformations. Here you gotta work your ass off for them. I think maybe in a few months or so SSJ2 will be up and running, or at least USSJ.
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