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Topic Started: Aug 19 2009, 07:31 PM (1,227 Views)
Yon
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After reading on the KC and Tasuda battle, I feel that IT should not be a battle move anymore and should be used for only traveling between planets. Consequently, everyone who donated money to the site and picked IT as a donational move should be compensated by being able to pick another donational item? I think this is pretty fair. What do you all think?
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Or perhaps by being given a certain special item? Give them all one Fairie Dust, since it has the same effect. Just one, though.
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IT can barely change the outcome of a battle y'know...
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If you IT your finisher, it's pretty much over.
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Yea if you use a finisher with IT all the other person can do is attempt to block it. There is no way to block a finisher without really forcing yourself into a ki battle but even that is debatable whether you'd have enough time.

IT is a battle winning machine. If you fight someone near or slightly lower than you in pl they are sure to win if they aren't retarded.
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Alain Zanze,Aug 19 2009
06:53 PM
If you IT your finisher, it's pretty much over.

You must be joking. If someone ITs their finisher you can still start a Ki battle or find a Meat Shield. Just because something cant be dodged does not mean you cannot stop it.
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King Cold is right, my suiken was undodgable but he used my deca to stop it. Perfect example
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Jeice,Aug 19 2009
09:26 PM
King Cold is right, my suiken was undodgable but he used my deca to stop it. Perfect example

That's because you were severely outmatched to begin with.
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Maybe IT should have a 50% chance of being undodgable, or at least cost more ki.
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Bojack,Aug 19 2009
09:28 PM
That's because you were severely outmatched to begin with.

That has nothing to do with it, in the description is says this move cannot be dodged. And he didnt dodge it, he found a way around it
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Bojack,Aug 19 2009
09:28 PM
That's because you were severely outmatched to begin with.

I could have been weaker then his deca but had higher intelligence then him, to use a counter. Or I could have had more speed then his deca, so their was no chance to stop me from doing a normal special attack(Throw).

I could have even took his attacks and been weaker but made my self fall or get hit in the right direction to place his deca form or anything like a tree, hill, mountain, etc, in the way of his attack.
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KC, I'm pretty sure you can't use a counter on ki attacks, especially a finisher. The thing is, IT should only be available to people with the Sense ability and I think it should only make one attack undodgeable, instead of also allowing you to auto-dodge an attack. Essentially, make IT offensive and Teleport defensive. XD

Pretty sure someone mentioned that idea before.
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Tapion,Aug 20 2009
12:38 AM
KC, I'm pretty sure you can't use a counter on ki attacks, especially a finisher. The thing is, IT should only be available to people with the Sense ability and I think it should only make one attack undodgeable, instead of also allowing you to auto-dodge an attack. Essentially, make IT offensive and Teleport defensive. XD

Pretty sure someone mentioned that idea before.

Jeice had his deca form use a finisher in our battle?

Well Taps, for once I am going to be nice and assume that you did not take the time to read the posts that would relate to the situation that I was referring to and not even touch that.
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I think when someone dodges Self Destruct Unscaythed...there is a big problem. Someone could put alot of effort into an rp or attack and just be dodged with no effort.

I hope its removed soon. IT + Finisher! WOOT! Or IT + Dodge Finisher! Yay...how fun
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How about we let people still use IT in battle but make a rule where IT cannot be used when performing finishers; IT could still be used with fundamentals and advanced moves? I think that is a fair trade off. Let people still use it in battle but reduce it being used with finishers to allow more creativity for rp'ing with a finisher. Good idea? Yes? No? Maybe so?
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This is such a useless discussion. They donated money, so they chose IT, simple as that. Turles and Appule, sorry, but if you guys had IT, I bet you wouldn't be complaining like this.
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02:39 AM
This is such a useless discussion. They donated money, so they chose IT, simple as that. Turles and Appule, sorry, but if you guys had IT, I bet you wouldn't be complaining like this.


I recognize people donated money and want that move, so that's why I am wondering if there is a way for people to keep using it in battle but not in a way where it takes away from rp'ing. Don't you think it kinda takes away from creative roleplaying 19 when someone can just do IT+finisher?
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I'd believe you have to play the game more, because with your 6k power level, IT doesn't really play any role of importance, because anyone with IT is atleast 10 times stronger than you.
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02:51 AM
I'd believe you have to play the game more, because with your 6k power level, IT doesn't really play any role of importance, because anyone with IT is atleast 10 times stronger than you.

I wasn't concerned about myself. I was thinking about other people and it inspired me to make this topic after reading the tasuda/cold battle and all the arguing that went on between people regarding the move. You have to see the battle to know what I mean.




Personally I can accept someone rp'ing against me with IT but what about how other people feel? I noticed that some of Pico's minions have IT. They could just do IT+Finisher or dodge attacks or flee from battle anytime just before they are about to be killed.
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I wasn't concerned about myself. I was thinking about other people and it inspired me to make this topic after reading the tasuda/cold battle and all the arguing that went on between people regarding the move. You have to see the battle to know what I mean.


Me, as a person that was close to joining that battle, yes, I EXACTLY know what you mean. You, on the other hand, are talking about me without knowing the facts.


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Personally I can accept someone rp'ing against me with IT but what about how other people feel? I noticed that some of Pico's minions have IT. They could just do IT+Finisher or dodge attacks or flee from battle anytime just before they are about to be killed.


If you can handle it, let the others that cannot 'handle' it start the topics then. Really, I don't see what this discussion is about. The technique has been here since the RPG was created. NOW it's a problem?
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I tend to agree with many on here. IT should either be fore Planet teleporting only, or made as a Adv/Fundamental combination move, not finisher cause you could end the battle with ease that way if they so chose. This coming from a Experienced Vet AND Experienced player that has 13 battles under his belt.
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If you can handle it, let the others that cannot 'handle' it start the topics then. Really, I don't see what this discussion is about. The technique has been here since the RPG was created. NOW it's a problem?

Well, being a new player to this game, I can't help but voice my feeling that the move may need to be regulated. That is why I started this topic and I was wondering what others had to say about it. Seeing how this game is evolving and patches are introduced sometimes, I thought, why not start a discussion about it.
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Well its not like I have a reason to complain, I'm just a spectator in the forum and IT. Like turles, I haven't been in a battle that involved IT. So most of my oppinion is from watching other people battle. I've been in four battles(All four were fun), but not one with IT. I just like to see the greatness of rps intact. To see epicness and the climax of battles. To me...IT violates this and it scares me. I just want to see the rp remain true. So shoot me.
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No one complained when zanzoken made attacks undodgeable. Its only because you have to pay for IT that people are moaning now.
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Seifer,Aug 20 2009
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No one complained when zanzoken made attacks undodgeable. Its only because you have to pay for IT that people are moaning now.

Ditto that.
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