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Stamina Fix Idea
Topic Started: Sep 19 2009, 07:37 PM (331 Views)
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With how the rules work now stamina is kind of pointless to increase. I was think that we could do to it what was done with stamina. After hitting certain points you get certain abilities; such as surviving in a vacuum or reduced technique costs. What do you guys think.
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Stamina definitely is not useless. It is a way of combating battle fatigue. The higher your stamina, the less effect using ki will have on fatigue.
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Really? Because I saw it that techniqus lower your ki by a % so if someone with 500 stamina and someone that had 3000 stamina used the same technique the person with the lower stamina would lose less stamina and therefore less of their PL and KI.
I brought this idea up because a couple months ago I saw a long thread addressing this.
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Uhm, you would lose less PL and Ki...but you would have less PL and Ki to begin with.
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Uhm, you would lose less PL and Ki...but you would have less PL and Ki to begin with.

Thus, you raise stats like Strength and Toughness (As well as Speed), giving you higher PL, stronger melee attacks, more resilience to attacks, and a lower loss in PL/Ki whenever you take damage and use up energy.

See what I mean? Someone that concentrate's on those 2 (Or 3) stats, would be better then someone that didn't, overall, because they would maintain a higher powerlevel even if they lost the same or more vitality or stamina.
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Tatsuya,Sep 20 2009
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Really?  Because I saw it that techniqus lower your ki by a % so if someone with 500 stamina and someone that had 3000 stamina used the same technique the person with the lower stamina would lose less stamina and therefore less of their PL and KI.
I brought this idea up because a couple months ago I saw a long thread addressing this.


No because the way battle fatigue works, each of the stats affect it equally regardless of what they are so if you have more stamina, it acts as a "buffer" to make it decrease slower. If it worked the way you said then it would be broken.
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Tatsuya,Sep 20 2009
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Really?  Because I saw it that techniqus lower your ki by a % so if someone with 500 stamina and someone that had 3000 stamina used the same technique the person with the lower stamina would lose less stamina and therefore less of their PL and KI.
I brought this idea up because a couple months ago I saw a long thread addressing this.


No because the way battle fatigue works, each of the stats affect it equally regardless of what they are so if you have more stamina, it acts as a "buffer" to make it decrease slower. If it worked the way you said then it would be broken.

Ah, I see now. I apologize, thanks for the correction, Alexander the Great.
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I hate to say this, Alex, but as it is now, Stamina really is pretty worthless. To be useful this stat would have to be played into the RPs, and lets face it most people don't think about how much stamina they've used up when writing. Its like determination; since there's no concrete amount for any of it, nobody factors it in.

If you really want to make it useful then go find that suggestion I posted awhile back, with Stamina directly affecting how powerful your ki attacks (Since they always drain the same % of your stamina the amount of stamina drained changes person to person.)
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Grylon. http://www.alexsdbzrpg.info/page/Grylon

He had a high pl, low sta, and his pl barley dropped during the battle from battle fatigue.
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Ra,Sep 20 2009
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Grylon. http://www.alexsdbzrpg.info/page/Grylon

He had a high pl, low sta, and his pl barley dropped during the battle from battle fatigue.


Then the battle was reffed wrong. Don't say there are problems with the site because people don't know how to properly ref.

If you have 100 stamina and 100,000 power level and you use an attack that takes up 50% of your ki, that reduces your stamina by 50% thus your stamina turns to 50. Since stamina affects battle fatigue just as much as the other stats, your power level just went down by 24,850 because of ki usage and you only spent 50 stamina to off-set it.

If you have 20,000 stamina and 100,000 power level and you use an attack that takes up 50% of your ki, that reduces your stamina by 10,000 thus your power level goes down by 6,250 because 10,000 of your stamina was "spent" to offset the power level loss.

Would you rather have your PL reduced by 25% or by 6%? I'd vote for 6%. Stamina is not useless.
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But if you go off the calculating stamina stuff on the site its different from what you just said. If you have 120,200 pl with all stats at 20,000 but sta at 100, and you use up 50% ki your sta drops to 50, but your stats calculate out to 120,100 PL.

Where as if you have 120,000 pl with 15,000 all stats including sta, and you use up 50% ki, your sta drops to 7,500, and your stats calculate out to 105,000 PL.

so two people, with near equal pl, using the same amount of ki, will lose very different amounts of pl.
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Ra,Sep 20 2009
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But if you go off the calculating stamina stuff on the site its different from what you just said. If you have 120,200 pl with all stats at 20,000 but sta at 100, and you use up 50% ki your sta drops to 50, but your stats calculate out to 120,100 PL.

Where as if you have 120,000 pl with 15,000 all stats including sta, and you use up 50% ki, your sta drops to 7,500, and your stats calculate out to 105,000 PL.

so two people, with near equal pl, using the same amount of ki, will lose very different amounts of pl.

That's how you calculate stats, not how you calculate battle fatigue.
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