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Suggestion; Super Forms
Topic Started: Oct 4 2009, 08:14 AM (1,396 Views)
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Super Forms will be redone here soon. Goku did a decent job and make some excellent suggestions.

I would suggest that, from hence forth, unless you're going to respond with any constructive critism, that you don not post in the Question/Suggestions anymore. Do not attack someone because they made a suggestion.

That goes to the staff as well. If I catch any more staff members pretending that they have the power to accept/deny a suggestion, you're going to find yourself on the ban wagon.

It's time that we start realizing something. Respect is a two way street and if staff can't dish it, they don't deserve it.
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Look, just don't change the necessary power level to get the Saiyan super forms alright? I worked long and hard to get where I am and I don't want to see people manage to get SSJ only 5K past what I had to be to get Giji. As I have said many a time, it took a LOT for Goku to get to SSJ. You can't just go and make things easier. I am already 20K below SSJ now. Do you REALLY want me to be able to get SSJ already and just blow everyone away?

125K to get SSJ is fine. Especially considering you get Giji at 45K. Don't make it 50K to get to SSJ, cause then we'll have a shitload of Super Saiyans.
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I think the current plan is to not screw those that are currently close, IE Pan to getting SSJ.

And those that already have certain levels, even if we increase the difficulty to get them, they will keep them.
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Yeah, thanks rei. Want to apologise if I reacted strongly as well. Pan, the example was to show how the multiple transformations of a saiyan can fit in with the other and not be overpowered. We got SS USS SS2 SS3 GOLDEN OUZARU and SS4 in there without saiyans overpowering the othe races. That's all it ever was. Demon and android i just made stronger because I think they should be. Buu, Janemba, Super Android 17 and 13 for example. Rei n zak wouldn't decrease requirements and i dont expect them to.
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Until we get a SSJ1, we shouldn't be worrying about the others.
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We won't be getting an SSJ for another few months :P

But yeah, don't screw the people who have the transformations already or are really close (like me and Videl)
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Personally, I just want to make sure that the races equal each other. It kinda sucks when your race only has 1 transformation and you have to wait until the minimum requirements for a SSJ to earn it while everyone else has 2-3 transformations before hand.

I'd just like to give those "littler" races something to look forward to, even if they're not as powerful of a power up as the others, that way everyone has something to shoot for.
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Letice,Oct 4 2009
02:29 PM
True strength comes from within

But on a DB RPG, it comes from Transformations. lol
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Letice,Oct 4 2009
03:29 PM
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Oh shush you. Your withins will be your withouts if you go against me!
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Pan,Oct 4 2009
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Oh shush you. Your withins will be your withouts if you go against me!

ROFL. I literally lol'd

+1 ill point for Pan

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If it isn't broken, don't fix it.

You mean, "If it isn't broke, don't break it."

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Leave the ssj as it is to be fair.

Just, leave it.

im happy witht he thoguht of working my arse off to get ssj at 125k pl, makes me want to rp more.

Having it at would be like, meh, everyone else can get it easily, why bother.
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Do we honestly want USSJ and SSJ2 and stuff like that though? Why not just stay true to Toriyama's dream of just having SSJ be the only Saiyan transformation?
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I think people are forgetting that SSJ was thought to be a legend for a long time. If anything it should be pushed back some, and saiyans should get some other 'transformation' between it and giji.

But I dont think changeling or saiyan transformations should be changed, the other races could use some balancing though. I do like the idea of making the transformations unique though. Maybe even customizable. Give people a certain number of stat gain and percentage to distribute between their stats in their ultimate transformation.
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I do like the idea of making the transformations unique though. Maybe even customizable. Give people a certain number of stat gain and percentage to distribute between their stats in their ultimate transformation.

I've always been an advocate of this.
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Pushed back more than 125? Then we won't get an SSJ for another year :lol:
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Pan,Oct 4 2009
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Pushed back more than 125? Then we won't get an SSJ for another year :lol:

Just go on a battling spree and youll get there before you know it.
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Yeah...right...*nods a little*
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I am completely in support of Reijin. Why is there a problem to have more super forms.

What is the problem if everyone is super saiyan.

Everyone in DBZ is a super saiyan.

If your ultimate target is a super saiyan and if I were a saiyan (I am a Namek which needs more super forms) I would aim for Super Saiyan 5!
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Oh my God Dende...your entire argument is thrown out of the window at the mention of SSJ5. Just...NO. No no no no no no! Keep things as they bloody well are. I don't flipping CARE if everyone after the Frieza saga is a bloody super saiyan. That simply cannot work for an RPG. I have seen other DBZ RPGs include everything from SSJ1 to SSJ4. And it just did not work well at all. The battles were retarded. SSJ4 versus SSJ4. Hell, you shouldn't even bring SSJ4 into the mix cause it's GT.

Keep things as they are. Stay true to what Toriyama originally wanted when it comes to super forms. EOS. The MOST I can see is SSJ2 (with USSJ in the middle). But nothing more.
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Agreeing again with Pan. It gets ricockulous if you have all the versions of SSJ
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All right! It is a pretty tough desicion. I want to say something to Reijin.

If ever this upgrade to Super Saiyan 4 happens (Which has a very little possiblility!) I want a Super Namek 4 as well!

I say the Saiyans and Changelings are quite balanced.


The other races need to have atleast one race. It is perfectly all right and no one should object it. We Nameks have too less super forms.
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