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| Suggestion; Kaio-Ken Upgrade | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 6 2009, 10:24 AM (1,241 Views) | |
| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 10:24 AM Post #1 |
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Okay that's the quote. Now for my case. I have asked the question: Can Kaio-Ken be upgraded to the point where users can use level 20. Not mystic Kaio-Ken which halves the cost but normal Kaio-Ken with more levels. My argument for this to be included in the upcoming patch is the following. Kaio-Ken can be used with Giji in the rpg right? Well, Giji is Kaio-Ken actually. Maybe just drawn a little different almost like FSS and SS. So a part of my argument is to have Giji removed since it's just a "glorified Kaio-Ken" anyways. This will allow space for other super forms like SS2, 3 and 4 which were not just used in one episode to be added. Going back to Kaio-Ken itself I suggest more levels are added and the following to help decide how much damage it does to the user. Like my friend Tapion said, the stronger Goku became the easier it was for him to use increase levels of Kaio-Ken. If you noticed the percentage Kaio-Ken also adds you'll notice that obviously there will be a number that will be given when you work out for example 9% of the X amount. I suggest one of two things concerning this. One if the X amount of the percentage is higher then a certain X, meaning a person who's PL is 1000 X amout of the percentage will be less then a person who's PL is 2000, damage is lessen allowing for more levels to be added. Or we can go on every 10% damage levels are decreased by 25% meaning by the time you are at Kaio-Ken level 20 your damage is halved. So to make it more simpler every ten level decreases damage and increase gains the cap being 20-25. That way mystic Kaio-Ken which doesn't really exist as far as I know (I could be wrong) can be canceled out. At the end of the day this will allow, depending on how many kaio-ken levels you add and how much you let every 5 or 10 levels decrease damage, Giji which is not even a real transformation to be removed. All the SS forms to be added which will make it more true to the show DBZ and DBGT. Which Razak displayed he liked:
I want to thank the person who helped me get this useful information, Pan. If it wasn't for you posting that link I would have never came up with an argument and a suggestion so good. So thank you. Goku here, Legend out!!! |
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| Seta | Oct 6 2009, 10:31 AM Post #2 |
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Giji is not Kaio-Ken. I really wish people would leave things as they are right now. As has been mentioned, you NEVER made these types of suggestions BEFORE you became Goku. I wonder why? |
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| Komandr | Oct 6 2009, 11:59 AM Post #3 |
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lol i wonder if it has anything with him being goku? Anyways I do disagree with lvl 10 Kaio Ken doing 10% damage. The higher your PL, the less damage it should be able to do with it. HOWEVER I strongly disagree with the ss2,3,4,573, ect. The transformations are pretty balanced how they are now. Goku, Damnit will you leave this topic alone? |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 04:24 PM Post #4 |
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Never, I don't give up. Pan, obviously a person with good judgment would think things through before going in somewhere guns blazing. Kaio-ken can be upgraded. Why does change scare you so much? Either way it's a suggestion. Up to Alex to decide. I don't give up. Doesn't matter if it'll take me forever all the super forms will be seen here, this rpg and this community deserves it. |
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| nirvana4748 | Oct 6 2009, 04:26 PM Post #5 |
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BUT WE DON'T WANT IT |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 04:31 PM Post #6 |
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Well you will sooner or later. Take of that SS2 pic so long then. Proof your point, son. |
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| nirvana4748 | Oct 6 2009, 04:35 PM Post #7 |
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Dew gewd englush lawlz! Maybe it'll be added eventually, but why does that matter? It's taken Pan like a year and a half to get close to SSJ1. SSJ2 isn't even in the picture yet. |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 04:37 PM Post #8 |
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A wise man once told me look past your goals to determine your future. |
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| nirvana4748 | Oct 6 2009, 04:38 PM Post #9 |
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Well he's wrong because right now it would be smarter to implement it in the future when balancing and the like could be accounted for. |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 04:39 PM Post #10 |
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Proud of you, my boy. Valid point. How about putting on paper the rest of the SS forms are going to be added and give me the requirement for them. Then maybe, I'll call it a truce. |
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| nirvana4748 | Oct 6 2009, 04:41 PM Post #11 |
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I'll give you this much, SSJ2 probably would require 400k+ PL. |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 04:42 PM Post #12 |
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Why that much if I may ask? |
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| nirvana4748 | Oct 6 2009, 04:46 PM Post #13 |
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Doesn't it only make sense that SSJ2 is considerably harder to get than SSJ1? |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 04:47 PM Post #14 |
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Whom was the first to get SS2 and how long was that person SS before that happened? |
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| nirvana4748 | Oct 6 2009, 04:48 PM Post #15 |
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Gohan was the first to go SSJ2 and he couldn't do it until he trained himself so well in the SSJ1 state that it was like being in a reverted form. |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 04:54 PM Post #16 |
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He also stayed in the HBTC for a year to do so. Cover all your point, son. How long did it take Pan to reach SS about a year, don't you think it would be fair to not make it a joke by letting it take almost 4 years to do so. Your argument is great but you lack consideration and some knowledge in it. I know what your response will be. Let me see if I'm right or let me see if I'm underestimating you. |
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| nirvana4748 | Oct 6 2009, 04:57 PM Post #17 |
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1. It's great that you know what my response will be, because I can't even understand yours. 2. It takes about 100k to get SSJ. From there, you're really multiplying that number by less than 3 (2.5ish) to get the number to advance you from SSJ to SSJ2. |
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| BannedZeshin | Oct 6 2009, 05:01 PM Post #18 |
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The whole Giji SSJ is just a "glorified" Kaio-Ken thing has to be your worse argument yet. It is just a half-way point between SSJ and your base form, so it is essential that it stays. Also, if we add all the SSJ transformations, then I want you to make suggestions for races like Aliens, Changelings, Namekians, and Demons to have a transformation equivalent to a SS1, SS2, SS3, and SSJ4. |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 05:01 PM Post #19 |
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That's 312,500. How about 275,000. That's more fair and more then double. I did go read Suggestion Super Form. Read it thoroughly and the you tell me whose the strongest race. |
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| nirvana4748 | Oct 6 2009, 05:04 PM Post #20 |
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No, doubling the SSJ requirements just means that you're starting over essentially; it's like getting SSJ1 all over again. It needs to be significantly harder than getting SSJ. Think about it like a video game. Beating it on easy is fine and dandy, but beating it on nightmare mode is a whole different story.
Yay, that's right! And what's 312,500 + 125,000? |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 05:06 PM Post #21 |
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Depends what game you playing. 300,000 then. 400,000 is too much. There should be space for the rest while we can still be alive. Like I said 6 years to get all forms is long enough. How many members have been here for 3 out of 3 years? |
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| nirvana4748 | Oct 6 2009, 05:07 PM Post #22 |
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My question is, why are you so obsessed with super forms? |
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| OldGoku222 | Oct 6 2009, 05:08 PM Post #23 |
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Role players thirst. Want to role play in all of them. Feel which one I will use the most and the rest I'll use if I really need them. |
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| Seta | Oct 6 2009, 05:12 PM Post #24 |
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I think my poll in the pub at last count was somewhere along 11 for keeping to just SSJ, while 7 or 8 was for going on. I think the community spoke there, Goku. |
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| Deus | Oct 6 2009, 05:13 PM Post #25 |
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It's Dragonball Z, superforms are the main point. In the series they hardly ever fought in their normal form. That and saiyans are like spawns of satan. Everyone likes them and wants to be one and omfg they´re strong and awesome and *rant* My point is, no use trying to argue about super forms when the context its used in basically lives off of it. This you have to agree on; DBZ was a sucky super saiya-jin fest. Be it ssj1 or ssj5million, superforms are overused. Deal with it ^^ ...My wrist hurts.. i wonder why.. |
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