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Rp Battles
Topic Started: Oct 11 2009, 02:09 AM (720 Views)
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No I understand that a final post can add a lot to a battle. Sorry that's not what I meant. I mean that the final post doesn't have to be of the weaker player beating the stronger if they won the Roleplay Battle. Hmmm, I've just realised how hard this is to describe xD like this...

Player 1 has 2,000 PL
Player 2 had 200,000 PL

Player 1 roleplays better and so he wins the battle. However, this doesn't mean that Player 1 should be allowed to finish the battle with a move of his own, as it's still pretty clear that his PL is too low to win this. So, Player 2 gets a finishing post and what have you, buuut..

Player 1's gains > Player 2's gains

It's just that I find it hard to believe that somebody with such a low power could ever come up with an attack powerful enough to end the battle. I still think PL should play a role in these battles, if only for roleplay purposes. After all, the person who is deemed the winner of the battle because they actually beat up their opponent IC doesn't need to gain more from the battle.
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I totally agree with Piccolo.
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I like the idea
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It's not impossible to kill someone a million times stronger than you though. A sword was proved to still be able to cut through anything when Trunks kersliced Frieza into oblivion. That being said, say I have a sword and I'm fighting someone with 20,000 pl. They rush me, so as they are coming at me faster than the speed of light, I just thrust forward and they momentum causes them to impale themself on my sword, through the chest. Well I mean a gaping hole in your heart is going to kill you no matter how strong you are. Same if instead I spun around and sliced as they came. If I cut them in half...well they probably could keep going like Frieza...but what if I actually decapitate them?

Anyone can be killed by anyone, however I do agree that if you get completely pulverized but win, I don't see you being able to kill or steal. I mean if you are down for the count, how in the world are you going to kill the person who has devistated you?
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Hmm yeah, I see what you mean now, anybody really can kill anybody else whether accidental or not... though it would still probably require the use of a weapon or terrain, but that only makes the roleplaying interesting.

I still think that there should be no set formula as to who exactly wins these battles in terms of actually defeating their opponent in battle. So, using my previous example...

Player 1 CAN deliver the finishing blow (not necessarily kill) in the battle if he/she is the better roleplayer, but he/she doesn't HAVE to. Either way, Player 1 would still get the best gains for being the better roleplayer, but they can choose the most plausible and exciting way to end the battle.
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What I don't understand is why a lower leveled PL could not Kill and high leveled PL in their the 'Finisher' RP post.

Think about it this way: it's the final one so they can't reply. To kill them I could keep punching them and punching them, maybe take a break, then continue to punch them. Maybe I go to the shops, buy aa sword, go back and continue to stab him in the him till he dies. I mean, if he's out and can't reply, I can do anything no matter how long it takes. I could even shoot a KI Blast take a break a continue the process.

OK, I've exaggerated the point, but you should see what I mean...
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Thats why we have these discussions. To iron out the details. :D

Both sides bring up great points, perhaps we can limit the ending post on a scale from 1-3. 1 Being a No kill Post, 2 [steal or spare] then 3 [kill]

Of course if the player wins, and he wasnt thrashed about so much and does not wish to kill his opponents he could just claim his victory and move on.
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Thus the reason I think the Ref should make a fair and unbaised decision based upon the realism of the battle. If Me and Yamcha are battling and then entire time we RP him getting his ass handed to him, but he wins due to extremely better RP'ing, perhaps the judge would say:

"Yamcha gets a boost of addrenaline and my finish the battle with a kill, spare, or steal."

or

"Yamcha may win the battle via only a steal or a spare."

At which time, Yamcha could mearely get that boost of addrenaline, catch me in a choke hold, and make me pass out. Just because you have 1,000,000,000 PL doesn't mean that you'd be able to get away from my choke hold. How many people have passed out via a normal choke in the UFC? These guys can lift cars, but once you start choking them out and blood stops going to their brain, game over...you're done.

Besides, if I win, I just want to make someone inhale a ki blast and explode them from the inside out xD
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The way I see it is what Reijin said: you may only use as many actions as you'd be able to in a stat battle. It's just I thought the final post may differ to the normal posts since no one replies.

I propose, and I think this is basically what you suggested, that a Reff/Judge read through the posts and trying to judge how much damage the loser took (regardless of PL) and decide whether a final post, within the actions limit, the loser would be able to be killed by the winner.

I'm not sure if that ^ makes sense.

Edit: Just saw Reijin's above post
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