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Grappling Question
Topic Started: Apr 12 2010, 05:49 PM (450 Views)
O'Ryan
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Okay, in the battle O'Ryan vs Akuma & Buu, both Akuma and Buu engage me in a grapple at the same time.

Now, there is a normal grapple bonus of +2 actions if I accept a grapple... problem is,when you take a look at this, it makes no mention of what happens if you engage two grapples at the same time.

My question is this: if I accept both grapples, will I get +2 actions for each grapple made against me, for a total of +4 actions.... OR am I stuck with only the +2 actions?
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Personally I would say +4 actions since it is two grapples at the same time, but this isn't an official answer more as my opinion since this thread will turn into a discussion because there is no answer to that question till Alex can answer it.
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O'Ryan
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I asked Goku the same question, and he gave the same exact answer... using the almost same exact words.

And your right, this is a question that will turn into a discussion. From my point of view, the +2 actions only would end up being a death sentence to the single person facing the two others. This could allow two people with the power level of 3,000 be able to take down someone with a power level of 10,000 with ease, because the single person would have a minimum of 10 actions coming at them with a minimum of 5 actions to reply with... so he would only be able to respond to half of the attacks, and all the other attacks would be auto hits because he would have any responses left to block with... which would really hurt if they were all special attacks.
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lol brilliant tactics you must admin but I agree with you that Razak will have to give his official ruling
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Hmmm that's indeed a toughy

In one hand, I want to say

'No you will only have + 2 Actions. By getting +4 Actions from a grapple with two people, it's like saying that in the battle where you're against two peeps, you should be given 4 actions against one, and 4 against the other. Realistically you can't suddenly generate the time to create another 2 actions to react to a total of 10 (sometimes more) actions that are thrown at you.'

However, I also think that it is quite a sticky situation and a Grapple would be considered as a technique of sorts. If one person throws one move at you, say Kamehameha, and another throws a Big Bang attack, you can react to both of them and treat them as seperate attacks.

Considering the effect of the said 'technique' (Grapple) grants the participants + 2 actions, and O'Ryan is dealing with two Grapples, are they treated as seperate 'techs', or are they merged into one?
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I say +2 because why would he be ble to grapple faster because there is another opponent attacking him? If anything that would make him slower one would think.
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I agree with razak on that one, just because you add another person into the mix doesn't magically make you faster.
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Point taken Razak. I was just wondering because the rules didn't specify, that's all.

Okay. Akuma, Buu, I'll finish that post when I get back on.

Thanks for your help guys.
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I thought u could be only in one grapple at a time?
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Effectively, O'Ryan is in one grapple, just with two people against him.
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Yep... and I could be in over my head with it. If I had tried to avoid even one of the grapples, I would've been totaled by the attacks that came before the grapple.

So a question like this doesn't come up again, maybe the grappling info box should be edited to account for this.
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If thats the case, only one person should get +2, not both. If the ruling is that his only in one grapple.
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If thats the case, only one person should get +2, not both. If the ruling is that his only in one grapple.

If you're in a grapple, you get +2 actions, right?

So that means that O'Ryan, Akuma and Buu all get +2 Actions, as they're all in the same grapple. It just so happens that Akuma and Buu are both against O'Ryan.


I mean, you've seen it in the shows? Heck, Piccolo, Gohan and Krillin were all grappling against Frieza at the same time.
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It happens all the time. Krillin and Piccolo also double teamed Nappa for awhile in the beginning. Imma lock this now though since it is answered.
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