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User Planet; Protection idea Suggestion
Topic Started: May 24 2010, 11:20 AM (562 Views)
OldTurles
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Ok after further digging and talking to Chill about him trying to TOM my awesome planet lol I got to throw some ideas out there for looking at..



A planet is a planet, So if we can't ToM a premade planet(Earth, Vegeta, namek etc...) Then what would be any different from a User Planet.

For people that can just come to any User bought planet and blow it up in a week is kinda messed up. I've spent well into the 10k+ on my planet and for someone to come and blow it up is not fair. I know it's part of the game and if my Char was Chaotic Evil I would do it also but i'm not lol.


I know it says a Buy-able planet. Shouldn't we make the Person trying to use a TOM attempt to purchase the planet before bought, sense they can only use the Seed once, they should hav to pay for Double stats. If i had 40kPL mine would go up to 80k for only a around 6k zeni more should be paid to get double PL. Especailly on someone elses hard bought planet.


Or if none of that give us the option of Alliance Battling that person with the ability to purchase Protection items from the shop, Barriers, Fleet, Andriods for Planet Protection, and we can use these things along with teaming up against the attempting destroyer. Sense this is a big proection action we should be allowed more options when it comes to an intruder.


But let me know what ya think.
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Kagetane Hiruko
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wont happen. Most people already buy their own planet for ToM making it very costly. It is a risk you have to take when buying a planet.

It's like the stockmarket, your investments can rise to high peaks or vanish when the company you invested in goes bankrupt.

There has never been a problem with it so far, as everyone knows the risk of having a user planet, hell I have the same risk. Plus the seed needs a week to grow, in the meantime, many bigger people could just come at your defense.

And I didn't state I was going to ToM on your planet, though it is a possibility :P

plus ToM is costly and you can only buy a user planet once, be logical and do the math. If I buy a planet and fully upgrade it, would I be stupid enough to throw all that money away buy ToMing my own planet, no I wouldn't. I would search for another user planet and blow that one up. Besides to ToM you have to be chaotic evil, what is more evil than blow up someone elses planet.

Surely you can ask for all those things, but it would not be fair, because HBTC is free and has no "defenses", you know what I mean. ToM itself is already costly, HBTC is free.
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If anything, once you hit a certain PL you should have to fight more for that double PL. Over 100K? Guess what it takes 2 weeks to grow. Fight for what you want. Evil isn't always an easy way to go about getting power. Look at all the bad guys in literature. It took work. :P

Of course I mean the seed. Before anyone gets any 'bright' ideas.
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Well yea lol I just think there should be some type of system for us who own planets to take further measures to protect. There's no way I can fight alone a person with almost 50kPL lol.

But if we could Alliance Team up and have some Protective Measures placed on our planet then maybe we could have a better chance. So make these items lol
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I mentioned this in Turles's other thread, but an early warning system (where the ToMer has to PM the owner of the planet when he posts the update) or something like that would be a good thing, imo.

Then the owner can either man up and defend his planet, or let it all go to HFIL.
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Kagetane Hiruko
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true, but on the other hand also again unfair. I know Turles wants his planet and does not want to lose it, but he can be certain that it will survive for at least a few months, in that time, He could easily be at my current level. Plus do not worry I am not going to blow up such a puny planet (haha) I want to blow up the planet that lived the longest.

But ah well, PM'ing the person in question is fine, but only to be defended by alliancemembers. Otherwise it's to easy to just ask Tapion or Jeice and hold off everyone who ToM's. What will follow will be a suggestion to make the ToM rewards bigger because Turles idea would make it almost impossible to ToM.
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Or, y'know... me because I'm a bitch with IT.
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not when it's me ;). Just because I can give you a really hellish battle again.

*cough KC cough*

:D :P ;)
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Tsh, we all know there are some people treading a thin line when it comes to following rules and not trying to bend them to fit their needs. All of them are in the chaotic evil category. :P
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lol true I will be up there with the best of the players soon, got some good stories coming so lol but i'm bout to be heading to my planet anyways to get some good training done then i'll be back in action. But yea i'll make sure i'll keep moving up so I can defend my planet from intruders...

Like a :ph43r: in the night i'll jump down and do the damage and dissapear again woot woot
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Could add an upgrade for user planets that functions as a sort of military. Have it so that the aggressor starts with 10-20% less fatigue to symbolize fighting against the planets military. Just a small edge to give to the defender.
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I'm tired of people saying that "Doing this would unbalance the game" when it comes to fixing the ToM.

I say FIX. Not REBALANCE. It needs fixed. It is broken.

That means that it's not ruining the item. Just your poor, unbalanced dreams.

Also; if you're going to say that we need to increase the gains just because we make it so you have to buy your own planet to use, you're... well, you're an idiot. I'll just say it. Even 10k for a doubling in PL is nothing.
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Well i could care less how the Seed works, I just want to get some Incentives for people who spend their money on Planets for long term effects.

The seed is fine I was going to do the whole buy a planet get Chaotic Eveil and blow it up but I found a better way to get long term stats and thats with a planet, but It's hard to do that if someone comes and drops a Flower seed in my ground and out pops a transformed Apple with spikes lol..


Just get some defense additions we can buy NAO, this is not an option lol



But on that note I never said increase any GAINS. I said lets make it cost more, for doubles gains you're spending less then 10k for Double stats well If i've got 15k i'm a 30k in less then 3 weeks thats a little weird, we need to make it a bit harder to get those kinda gains
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Ra
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My suggestion to fix tom:

1) Make those who have planted the seed sneakable. Even if they have a scouter / sense
2) Make it take two weeks. That way people have a time to try and get there to stop them.
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Kagetane Hiruko
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you can't speak in this matter you already ToMed :P

no, if you keep complaining, then just get rid of both ToM and the HBTC, no more complaints again about that. BUT then there is the quest and the quest item problem which is completely in favor of good. you see, it doesn't work. you can't balance things, because all you people complain about is ToM, but funny enough you dont hear us complain about the massive overload of good only quests with superpowerfull items, like the ankh.

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Any of a list of these things would make the ToMing other planets (more) fair:



-Make it so you can buy more than one planet; but can only own one,

-Make it so that you can buy a 5k+ Zeni item that prevents anyone from landing on your planet without your permission

-Make it so that the person using the ToM MUST fight (or have the owner say he doesn't want to fight) the owner of the planet before they can use the ToM; they can't just PM them and see if they make it, if the owner says he wants to fight they HAVE to fight before ToM.





And as for the ToM itself;



-Give it a 50k PL boost cap

-Preferably implement AT LEAST one of the above changes under ToMing other planets

-Make a big disadvantage for Chaotic Evil players. Something like they can't be in an alliance (They would all kill each other anyway, if they were anywhere near the same level in power), or they can't be on anyone's team in a fight. Something noticeable. And then once they ToM LOCK EM IN at Chaotic Evil.

-Make the seed take one week to plant, one week to grow, and then one week to prepare; and during any of those three weeks the planter(s) can be sneak attacked.



Obviously I wouldn't want ALL of these to be implemented. Preferably at least one from each would be nice though.

I think a 50k cap on PL boost and only using it on your own planet is the best solution. Or 50k and you can buy another planet if yours gets blown up.



EDIT: And Chill, the reason we complain about ToM is because it literally takes 0 effort to use. Most of the quests with any good items are at least a Medium Quest, usually Hard or Very Hard.
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23 Apr 12, 03:27 PM
Taps: Gawds, Sana thinking he so hawt.
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To quote Alex: "It's easy to be evil. Being good takes effort."
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To quote me: "Game. Not real life. Work on balancing that later."
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10 Apr 12, 02:15 PM Taps: Kama, stop having fantasies about me and Trunks. They are creeping me out. >.>
10 Apr 12, 02:15 PM Kamatayan: It never actually happened, but it happens every night in my mind lol

23 Apr 12, 03:27 PM
Taps: Gawds, Sana thinking he so hawt.
Apr 12, 03:28 PM
Kenpachi: You know you want this ass

Vash 11:48 pm
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    i just like the feeling of a boner
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Kagetane Hiruko
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all true all good, except for one thing: if that all happens, the game turns and everyone becomes a good guy and a few months later the evil ones complain. and yes, the quests are medium or above, but jesus look at the items. signet of purity, ankh of alexandria, sunstones. all that stuff, really quit the yapping about ToM. The only thing in that entire list that seemed allright was that 5k zeni land thing. Plus the planet own thing, which would stop evil guys from blowing up others planet. And maybe double the price for a seed and remove the seed-quests or alter them.

But serious, saying that chaotics can't be in an alliance that is bogus. You can keep complaining, but it is all simple; you choose your own fate. If ToM goes down, I say the quests and HBTC go down. you can't screw with one alignement without screwing with the other.

I can say a lot more advantages: the best finisher, can't be used by changelings and evil. The best quests, best items, more masters they can go to.

so yet again, this will be an endless discussion. I could say to Turles, hey you dont have the right to complain, you're a saiyan, which would bring up yet another discussion. It is completely pointless to try and balance out things, why? Because it will never work.
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The best finisher is definitely nawt the spirit bomb... (cough cough)
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10 Apr 12, 02:15 PM Taps: Kama, stop having fantasies about me and Trunks. They are creeping me out. >.>
10 Apr 12, 02:15 PM Kamatayan: It never actually happened, but it happens every night in my mind lol

23 Apr 12, 03:27 PM
Taps: Gawds, Sana thinking he so hawt.
Apr 12, 03:28 PM
Kenpachi: You know you want this ass

Vash 11:48 pm
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    i just like the feeling of a boner
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OldTurles
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No no I'm not complaining at all, All i was trying to add was we needs some items to help us defend our planets. Like I've said I would use the TOM in an instant if i was evil.

I said it wasn't fair for a person to TOM a planet when if the person has spent over 10k like I have almost, thats it nothing more. I'm by all means not complaining just trying to get some items we may can use. I knew when i bought the planet is was fair game but it would be nice to have some defensibility type items thats all
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Kagetane Hiruko
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well, you can always take the items on the planet back and buy another planet with alliancefunds. That way a loss is less painfull. I mean 6-7k compared to 10k+ is a lot better.
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Yea i mean it's all understandable. I was just trying to get some items put in for us. I know i can easily sell it t zolton but I still lose a lot. but some is better then none lol
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Kagetane Hiruko
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no I meant you just remove the items from that planet and buy a new one with alliancefunds, cause you did buy this one yourself right?
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Yea i bought this planet with gravity and gravitron and lvl 1 and 2 civilization, and capital ciy and buying Atmosphere generator and Training Center add-ons all require non-alliance funds for buying.. So you can see my cost worry there lol
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