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Bartering Pub?; Probably already been requested...
Topic Started: Nov 24 2010, 06:54 PM (325 Views)
Fonos
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I'm thinking. The Auction House we have now is all good and nice, but what about a Bartering Pub? As in, one person puts an item on the table like any other auction, but people request to trade it for other items they have on their person and the OP[Original Poster] chooses the item they like best after their set time period.

It would be a nice addition since you can't do that under this system. regular rules like alignment and race for certain items would still apply of course. It wouldn't be like Zolton's, but more like an add-on to the Auction House.
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A good idea... I do believe, however, that it has been ruled that items may only be sold for zeni.
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Well obviously that rule would have to be altered if a barter system were to be added in with the auctions.

I do like the idea though, it adds an interesting new depth to the economics of the game. Makes the 'value' of any particular object more fluid.
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Money makes the world go round =/

But it is a good idea, I support it. It would allow more fluidness in the way things go now.
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Besides, with the mention of 'underdeveloped' worlds in the galaxy... who's to say HOW they're under developed? A lack of economic theory maybe? How would a hive-mind come up with the concept of personal wealth?

And the Nameks, does their society REALLY look like it has some kind of economy? Or do you think they mostly trade between villages for what they need?
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This idea has been brought up quite a few times before, and shot down. However, it was shot down because of two reasons. The first was because the people who brought the idea up and pitched it were morons and couldn't find a legit system to throw the idea into effect. The second reason was no one else on the site would help with the idea and show no support.

I suggest this...

You create a system and make sure it's flexible, and then pitch this idea with that backing it. My other suggestion is that the rest of you liking this idea support it and bring forth your own ideas to the table.
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Honestly, I can tell you guys this probably wont get passed. Why?

Well for one, a system like this would make it much easier for anyone to obtain harder to get items. It could be used by certain members to obtain items you can only get when completing a quest without the need to actually participate in the quest.

Secondly, a barter system would make items like the Permit to Sell obsolete.

Ive seen this system idea brought up so many times in the past and I feel that it will meet its end the same way.
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Bardock,Nov 26 2010
03:28 PM
Then let there be limits.

You need to elaborate when you make a statement like that. What kind of limits could you make? No trading anyone an item unless its of equal value? What is equal value? What if there is nothing.

You can't make limits that would stop people from trading a senzu bean for super weighted clothing or something to that degree. It would make the Permit to Sell obsolete, that is a fact.
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Permit to Sell works in much the same way as Auction does, only in a more personal way. I sell you something, you give me zeni. The only way it could be compared is if both people had permit to sell, and both traded the items for the exact same amount of Zeni. Who does that, really? Nobody.

As for a system, I could probably work one out sometime today. I'm only posting now to point that little discrepancy out.

EDIT: Besides, the fact of the matter is that since it is bartering, other people would auction other things. Nobody would do a completely stupid trade if someone offered something better. That's the thing about it. You don't sell a Yamma Fruit for 25 Zeni if someone offered 50, even if the person who offered 25 was someone you liked.
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Yeah, take the Bardock's Headband item for example. Toss in a rule about not being able to trade items that can't be sold either. Simply put, if an item has to be obtained by special actions such as quests, or rare/token/donation items can't be traded.

Other than that, the items might need to have some common grouping. Items need to be traded for something in the same category for instance.
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Here we go. I just literally threw this together a minute ago, so you can throw criticisms at it, or suggest other rules and things, but I think a set of rules similar to this could keep it somewhat balanced.


Rules:
1) It must have a minimum time of 24 hours.
2) Auction House Rules 3 and 4 apply.
3) Worth of Items are mostly subjective, but some staples can apply. For instance, something worth 1000 Zeni typically would hold more sway on the table than something worth 200. And if it’s something that can only be obtained on a certain planet, its worth also increases due to that. Etc.
4) Only one item can be used as a bid. You cannot simply put down six or seven items that are near worthless and expect their worth to accumulate over time.
5) Rare Items can be traded for, but their base worth is at 1,000 Zeni worth of product.
6) Dragon Balls, Items obtained from quests, alignment-based items, and items that cannot be stolen such as donation items, etc. cannot be traded off.
7) You can, in most cases, ask for a specific item when bartering, but remember that deliberate cheating to help out your “buddies,” if caught, will be prohibited and you can be banned from the Bartering Pub for doing this.
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Rules:

Rule #1). If Sanara ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.

Rule #2). By Posting in the Bartering Pub you agree to legally make yourself Sanara's bitch.

Rule #3). Sanara wants sex, Sanara gets sex.

Rule #4). What? You're QUESTIONING my rules?

Rule #5). Is Sanara gonna have to choke a bitch?
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Wait... rules #4 and #5 aren't actually rules...
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Gosai,Nov 26 2010
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Wait... rules #4 and #5 aren't actually rules...

See rule #5. Bitch.
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Choke Chill! He likes it!
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Limits like not being able to trade for items that you can only get through work. It wouldn't help if we could get items through the Bartering Pub that are intended to be acquired through quests and donations. That takes away from the roleplaying that ADBZ is all about. It would make it too easy for noobs especially. Donation items are meant to be acquired through donating. Plain and simple. Other than that, everything else should be fair game. I like the idea...
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Yes, Bardock. As addressed in my earlier post.
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Tarble 6:51 pm: That's the only thing I want to do now. I'll please you in ANY WAY

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Then two thumbs up for the Bartering Pub... *puts two thumbs up*

Note: I skimmed through the replies. Sorry :P
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