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Hybrids/saiyans The Works; suggestion
Topic Started: Nov 29 2010, 12:57 AM (1,190 Views)
Kagetane Hiruko
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Seems odd doesn't it, 9/10 hybrids being saiyan...gues what perk they pick, yes indeed battlebonus. Almost (I do say almost) every saiyan, half saiyan and hybrid with saiyan perk is a potential stat whore. I do not mind rp fights, to perhaps within limits (re.pan vs BF was over the top). Saiyans are ought to be rare, but in this game they just seem to me like a bunch of never dying, never resting cockroaches. Therefor the number of custom saiyans should be minimized, perhaps as much as changelings. The perks for hybrids should be ammended too. Just like battle fatigue immunity is gone, so should the battle bonus of saiyans be erased from a hybrid's perk-list.

I tell you this because there no longer seems to be any diversity amongst the players. 3 changelings, 2 namekians, 3 humans, 1 android, 4 aliens and a buttload of saiyans, halfsaiyans and saiyan abominations as hybrids. I think if we ammend this a bit, there will be more people picking something else than a saiyan again.

Alex told me a year ago, people should be affraid of a supersaiyan. I agree, but what when supersaiyans are common, which is what you risk atm. Saiyans are supposed to be rare, dont flood the system with it, it just seems to get dull and rather tasteles.
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Drei
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That's right, we're on the verge of an infestation, again. I say we eradicate the option of even having Sayian hybrids entirely, considering we already have Half-Saiyans. Its really the only way to get ride of them stupid monkeys and their stat whoring ways.

Edit: At least you're paying attention when you read my posts.
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I'm not sure about reducing the number of custom saiyans but I will say this: since there's already a separate category for Half-Saiyans perhaps a 'hybrid' shouldn't include saiyan? I don't know...

All I'm really basing this on is the fact that Saiyans were said to have extremely limited numbers; King Kai tells this to Goku when recounting their history, some translations state that Turles looks like Goku because saiyans essentially have extremely limited genetic diversity, and wouldn't that imply a very small population as well?

Admittedly though the 'Saiyan Empire' page on the Galactic Compendium states the Saiyan Empire to have a total population of 45,000,000,000 and that 9% are saiyans. This means that there are roughly
4,050,000,000 saiyans in the universe...

A population that does seem to lag behind other species...
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Although I am notorious for playing saiyans, and am in the process to switching to one, I agree. I play them because I enjoy roleplaying as one, and I can't seem to stick to any of the other races I've tried. We have too many newbs and noobs alike coming in and going for saiyans and trying to fight really strong people for stats. At the least the stronger players should make an agreement to kill any people that are doing just that.
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Kagetane Hiruko
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just my point, though you as well in your time as saint dane abused the system by fighting Pan. My suggestion is even harsher than cold's. No more saiyan hybrids and reducing the number of custom saiyans and half saiyans.
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From what I've noticed over the past couple months, noobs have been applying for Saiyans but don't stick around to see things through. I am a Saiyan simply because Bardock has always been my favorite canon character. He had the balls to face Frieza even though he knew he wasn't strong enough to beat him. He fought because it was the right thing to do. My point is that some of us choose a Saiyan not to be stat whores, but because of what they stood for throughout the show. Strong Saiyans like Goku, Vegeta, Bardock and the half Saiyans fought any villain that came their way because they were protecting their homes and loved ones. The stat whores are making us good guys look bad.
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Well, generally the stat-whores want to be their own saiyans too from what I've seen... or what I'm making up. I'm honestly not sure which is the truth right now...
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Friend, I agree... most powerful race in the universe...seems the title should be most abundant...hell I would pun that saiyans are being mass produced more than androids. How ridiculous is that? A race loses its spirit the sane as all things if they are seen in repetition. A black dragon is known as the mightiest creature of myth, one falls an empire in a night. But what makes the black dragon iconic is its rarity, in most stories have black dragons in smaller numbers then the other breeds thus its immense power is made irrefutable when while a blue or green dragon levels a Kingdome in large swarms, one massive black dragon burns a continent to scorched earth, its rarity is what makes the beast menacing. When 20 black dragons would be an insurmountable war machine that would only face its end from starvation and not years of brave and valiant warriors bodies piling up till a silver armored knight braves the flames and kills the beast only to themselves die as well after the battle.

Nothing of significant power should grow uncontrolled, limitation to a race is a spice not a sour. I support the limiting of androids and humans for evolving androids are supposed to be even more a fluke then conscious androids and that special androids change the world of coexistence an understanding because ones stride to change the world, by contrast a world where all androids are in masses the same as humans it loses its grip and an audience care dwindles away from what the masses are. As for unique humans well look at history, some people will be remembered by a name in birth recording books and journals, but only a small margined have truly left there name carved into the annals of history.

Point is it is my belief that masses of one race outweighing most others just makes interaction blander and makes a race as saiyans seem more like a roman military then a singular force to be recon with, a race that conquers in numbers and repetition then individual threats and eliminates many chances of originality or a chance for revisionism.
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Technicality anyone can stat whore...but as one of the newer half blood saiyans that has stayed around, I haven't battled anyone above my power level (First battle was with another noob and my current one against Ginyu). Some of us picked up the bonus for the use, but don't use it that much. Yes, there are some that do it to stat whore, but they haven't stuck around.

Then again, it's fairly easy to stat whore without battling. I jumped from a nobody in August to in the top twenty in a month or two- with only 1 battle. What did I 'use'? SP, spars, and quests, and a few long ps's. My point here is, any race can stat whore.
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Even custom Saiyans should be focused on kicking evil ass or good guy ass. We can do that without being stat whores. So, I guess a reduction would help. Though now, I have my eye on you Changelings. :ph43r:
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just to point something out akina, this is not to say all of you are like that, this is to prevent this and to prevent a one-race show.
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People just want to be as strong as me. That's all. And to be that way they have to be Saiyans for that +5% PL from any loss or win. :P

ANYWAYS. I wouldn't mind seeing fewer Saiyan hybrids. Also, have you noticed the histories are ridiculous?
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My opinion on the matter may or may not count for much since I am quite happy as a custom human. However I would have to agree that it would be nice to see a decrease in the hybrids.
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Also, have you noticed the histories are ridiculous?


Aye, that's true. We gotta get rid of some of the Saiyan menaces! Alien Powa!

Nuff said...
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Admittedly though the 'Saiyan Empire' page on the Galactic Compendium states the Saiyan Empire to have a total population of 45,000,000,000 and that 9% are saiyans. This means that there are roughly
4,050,000,000 saiyans in the universe...

A population that does seem to lag behind other species...


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I tell you this because there no longer seems to be any diversity amongst the players. 3 changelings, 2 namekians, 3 humans, 1 android, 4 aliens and a buttload of saiyans, halfsaiyans and saiyan abominations as hybrids.


Not bad on my race's part, considering there are just over a hundred of us in canon. ^_^

Teh and I like to reffer to Saiyans as breeding like rabits, and that's why they're everywhere on the site. Here's what I say. Why not have Saiyan-*insert race here* hybrids just count as half-Saiyans on the site? They technically are half Saiyan, even if one half isn't human.
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Pan,Nov 29 2010
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ANYWAYS. I wouldn't mind seeing fewer Saiyan hybrids. Also, have you noticed the histories are ridiculous?

You mean how they usually go for either the Goku-esque 'Lowborn saiyan with awesome potential who escapes to prove their worth' or Vegeta-esque 'High Class saiyan who seems to uniformly dominate everything they place themselves against'?
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Yes. Not everyone can be this dude destined for greatness. Let it come in time on the RPG. Like with my character. Never was supposed to be number one in the universe, yet here she is.
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Not only that, Pan had to pay a price to become #1 on the site, what with the Super Saiyan trauma and her progressive fall of status etc. etc.
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Undoubtedly.
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Kaiya Nakano
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Ugh, sayians. I'm agreeing with Chill all the way.

Suggested Ground Rules
1. Make no more sayian Hybrids
2. Call all sayian hybrids custom half sayians, with bonuses as such
3. up the custom half sayian count to 5, drop the custom hybrid count to 8

Problem Solved.
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Ginyu, if you remove Saiyan hybrids, why lower the amount?
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I realized one of two of my bonuses will be useless when I go good. Unless you're allowed underlings when you're good, I don't see anything saying you can't, but it's always been the downfall of good, not able to have an underling.

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Kaiya Nakano
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Akina,Nov 29 2010
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Ginyu, if you remove Saiyan hybrids, why lower the amount?

The Hybrid slots decreases, not the sayian hybrids... *Sighs* Akina, there are other hybrids than sayians...
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Gosai
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But why would we lower the normal hybrid slots?
Wait, you were one of the people supporting the idea of lumping any hybrid that uses 'saiyan' into 'half-saiyan' category, yes?
If not, ignore me.
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Yes, and my theory about this was that with no sayian hybrids, those spots could be put to better use in half sayians.
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