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Its possible to be a saiyan hybrid without being a half saiyan. What if you are 80% human 20% saiyan? What would be a hybrid but I don't think it would classify as a half saiyan.
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That is some interesting genetics.
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Its possible to be a saiyan hybrid without being a half saiyan. What if you are 80% human 20% saiyan? What would be a hybrid but I don't think it would classify as a half saiyan.


Pan is 1/4th Saiyan, Goku and Vegeta Jr. are even less. All of them are half Saiyans according to the site. (Albeit our Pan is now a full blooded Saiyan)

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That is some interesting genetics.


Indeed. I'd assume that's impossible unless you were to do something like recomine human and Saiyan DNA. It's like Gilgamesh. 1/3rd human, 2/3rds god! :rolleyes:
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Saiyans are too popular for that, everyone wants to be a Saiyan it seems.
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Well not everyone. I prefered a human character and Oboe prefers Namekians is seems.
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I prefer changelings and demons
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Razak
 
Its possible to be a saiyan hybrid without being a half saiyan. What if you are 80% human 20% saiyan? What would be a hybrid but I don't think it would classify as a half saiyan.


Pan is 1/4th Saiyan, Goku and Vegeta Jr. are even less. All of them are half Saiyans according to the site. (Albeit our Pan is now a full blooded Saiyan)

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That is some interesting genetics.


Indeed. I'd assume that's impossible unless you were to do something like recomine human and Saiyan DNA. It's like Gilgamesh. 1/3rd human, 2/3rds god! :rolleyes:

That is for game mechanics purposes, just like how Gohan is classified as a full saiyan.
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People only want to be Saiyans for the bonuses. I, on the other hand, like their history and society.
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Just to note to you guys on that genetics part, there is a massive difference between a Half-Saiyan(which is automatically also Half-Human) and Saiyan Hybrids. The first is capable of reproduction and the ilk. The second is not necessarily capable of reproduction. Just look at Chaos, his character would likely not be able to have any children for a Saiyan(ape in genetic basis) and a Changeling(lizard at a base level) are far too different to be able to produce the necessities for reproduction. It would be similar for Saiyan/Alien Hybrids or Saiyan/Demon hybrids(though this latter example is somewhat different for a Demon is an extradimensional being).

Remember, in the manga and show, Vegeta and Nappa noted that a Half-Saiyan was definitely unexpected. It should not have happened. But it did, and Gohan is the proof.
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I chose a Saiyan as my character because I like the action and drama of becoming stronger even when losing...not because of the bonuses anyway if saiyans weren't available I would like choose human then namekians.

The thing is that...it sounds cool to people to be able to explore genetics in a game. For instance there is another player on this game which is like Goku's "son" from AF. But that isn't possible...so now he makes it into the game like that.

You should establish new systems to prevent unneccissary hybrids. You shouldn't ban or remove those which are currently in. I mean...the universe is filled with things and technology makes many things possible.
I won't let your stupidity rub off on me...
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just face it leek, what you just said is what people call hiding the truth...you just said you liked them because they get stronger when losing...which basically is rewording: "I wanted one for the bonus"

I just dont get it, is just every noob obsessed by goku and vegeta, wanting to be a saiyan. I mean, seriously, they are by far the least interesting characters in the series. For instance:

ssj transformation: yay I became a legally blonde with turquoise eyes, what a transformation.

compare that to euh lets say a changeling:

first form (yes even this one is more interesting than ssj): wow he becomes a massive hulking tower of muscles...quite impressive.

Simple: people who pick saiyans don't have any true inspiration or ingenuity except for those rare few, whom I respect: tarble, Pan, Diive...meaning the ones who show their creativity. Just sum up the facts here:

from the saiyans, we always get a noob overload, with 90% of them falling inactive after max one month, to be replaced by another bunch. It is friggin irritating.

Solution for diversity= this

1. No longer will the perk "increased loss rewards" be able for hybrids

or

2. no more saiyan hybrids at all

3. lower the amount of both custom saiyan as well as custom half saiyan.

4.amongst the canons, those without even ten seconds of screenplay should be dumped amongst the saiyans.

this IS how it should be
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Chill, I'm going to level with you- Choas and I are likely some of the only saiyan hybrids that are active. And although I see him battling, its not every week against someone superior to him to get the bonus. On the flip side, I've done few battles, and still have gotten along fine with the bonus there.

I choose Saiyan for the plot of my character- and what will eventually happen. I've always wanted to play out someone tormented by their humanity against their robotics, and it has turned out pretty well from a story point of view. Yes, many nooblets join and pick Saiyan/half-saiyan/saiyan hybrid for the battle bonus. But those that have remained, should we be punished for not abusing the bonus, Chill, by being forced to change?
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You wouldn't be made to change if this happened, so don't worry about that.
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I get what you are saying chill but when I said that about me picking a Saiyan as my race and about winning even when losing.

I've always wanted to have a dramatic story where I can transform into a Super Saiyan. Bonuses is just a perk but I mean...

I really actually want a "black" Saiyan so to speak...I am "coloured" so I never saw another "coloured" Saiyan before so that makes me the first.

Anyway...My character is far less like Goku or Vegeta, if you had read some of my roleplays. I've been active here for a month almost now (I joined the 3rd of Novemebr). I won't just give up something, besides I actually improve my english aswell not that it is bad but there's always room for improvement.

Android #17 and I are still planning to battle...he asked me to and I said I would, just give me 2 weeks which is next week because I'm a noob to 'this game'. I have never roleplayed before but I am good at RPGS. But lets not go off topic.

Everyone has their own reasons...don't think just because I want to be just like Goku...I'm crazy or stupid. It will actually take long and require you to be active like the sun. So then you achieve your Super Saiyan state.

When I look at an hybrid or full Saiyan turning into a Super Saiyan (Hybrid) I see all the effort which have come down to this but the game as measurements for those who don't play at all, so they can be replaced. Other than that some think its plain easy so they just join and expect to go Super Saiyan in a weeks time.

They read the 'How to play' and everything and they go," Yeah...I don't feel like it anymore."
I won't let your stupidity rub off on me...
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1) I have been here around 15 weeks now. Whilst, I have been here I have seen only one battle bonus abuse. Who's name shall not be spoken. As, they do roleplay very well and all the battles I have read by them have been very good as well as entertaining.

2) Chill, Oboe, Gosai, Sanara and Pan. Each, of you picked a different race. As far as your races go you are my favorite one(s) to read. And, I know Saiyan's are far to popular here, but I really don't see that changing unless Alex removes the custom's. Which, would actually be very sad; as in my opinion Akina, Blackfire, Chaos are very good at roleplaying there characters.

3) So, I really don't see what this thread is about. Oh, and yeah if your gunna throw the insult of how I am just another Saiyan. Then check the battles as I said in total I have been here around 15 weeks now and am still yet to fight a battle.
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Well we did have one. But he left.
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Razak,Nov 29 2010
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Its possible to be a saiyan hybrid without being a half saiyan. What if you are 80% human 20% saiyan? What would be a hybrid but I don't think it would classify as a half saiyan.

Razak you just reminded me of my original version of Gosai, the first time I used him in a DBZ rpg. I'd conceived of him as being one sixteenth saiyan. Just enough to explain certain weird behavioral traits but not enough to derive any real advantages from it.
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it seems you still dont really get the point.

I mean we need diversity...taking away the battlebonus from hybrids is an encouragement for people to pick something else than always saiyan hybrids, plus the fact saiyans are ought to be rare, not crawling cockroaches that multiply like fleas and of which you can't get rid of.

My point is not directed to the current ones, for those it is too late, I just want to see more namekians, humans and demons, more racial diversity. For now it even screws up official saga's due to the overpopulation of saiyans.
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Saiyans were never meant to be a huge controlling force. They are supposed to be like the Spartan population within the whole world's population.

Hell, Pan's fucking tiny little fleet has more diversity than the entire site.
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Well, there is the character change as well, Chill. If you use that item, spots don't mean anything: you can be a custom saiyan or custom half sayian without taking up a spot, even if you removed the battle bonuses from Hybrid. So there is a way around what you propose right there...*Just pointing this out*
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Than Alex will have to alter this as well, with only ki implants and blood infusion to avoid taking a slot.
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Um, those are the items I meant, Chill.
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yes, but with most people just doing a free char change...
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I don't understand this.

What are you wanting changed so bad?
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Saiyans were never meant to be a huge controlling force. They are supposed to be like the Spartan population within the whole world's population.

Hell, Pan's fucking tiny little fleet has more diversity than the entire site.

Does this mean that once other species learn to exploit predictability in Saiyan tactics their empire will crumble and Vegeta becomes a galactic backwater? Because that would be an oddly interesting Official Saga actually...

Political strife throughout their empire, every saiyan for themselves to either try to save the sinking ship or flee to greener pastures.

Back on subject however, I think most of the ideas are actually pretty good to cull the number of people playing saiyans purely for the stat reasons though it might also be worth noting the people who DO play them that way don't last very long, or at least start developing their characters if they do stick around. Mostly because the site has some damned good storytellers and anyone worth their salt feels a need to step up their game to keep up.

Y'know, a friend of mine had a DBZ RPG online a while back... never really got off the ground due to us not really advertising it, but anyway... one of the things he did was actually put a recommendation for player type with each species. It could help it could be idiocy, I dunno but it amused me.

For instance he referred to saiyans as 'Good for beginners' due to having the largest growth potential.
Nameks were good for 'Planners. Players who like to strategize' Because of their versatility.
Humans were 'Good for experienced players' as were Changelings.

...I started rambling again.
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