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Topic Started: Nov 26 2010, 09:50 AM (787 Views)
Kui
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Aight so I found all the staff's on the site and was wondering are they ever going to get some lvl 2 and lvl 3 staff's. Just wondering I mean you choose your weapons so if I wanted to get the better lvl then I would go with swords, but my character use's a staff. So just wondering?
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I don't think there are any level 2 or 3 techniques for staves so I don't see what the point would be?
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Yea there are none but the stats are better and stronger for the higher levels like swords. I found all the staffs and there all lvl1. I think there is like 6 all together.
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There are only 3 staff techniques at the moment, all of them level 1. It wouldn't matter much if there were higher levels. The only thing you could learn is staffsmanship off of Avalon to higher levels. I think it would make more sense to actually have more than just 3 techniques for them, then worry about having staves above level 1.
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staffs just aren't a versatile as swords :P
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Expertise II - level two spear and axe tech
Illusion Strike - level two spear tech
Vast Cross - level two axe tech
Verberation Blade - level two axe and spear tech





So where are some level two spear and axes on this rpg????

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Well, don't most martial arts use spear and staff techniques interchangeably? So in theory couldn't you use spear techniques with a staff?
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Kui
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Cygnus is exactly right on those skills. There are a few lvl 2 spears, no lvl 3. The stats do help alil more in battle Oboe. Its the percentage that helps out and going up to lvl 3 on Spearmanship is a really good technique to have when using a weapon. Most of your weapons can have interchangeable technique so I think your right Gosai. Now I mean im no master martial arts but i have seen alot of weapons used similar in ways.

Just a question I had to ask if there where going to be any added. Some of the staffs are very useful if you know how to use them in which I have a few ideas on useing some of them. But I wanted to find a lvl 3 staff to be my main one and try to max it out to its best.

But like I said, if I wanted to go pure strength and skills I could go with swords since there the better of the weapons, but I wanna use staffs so gotta deal with what im choosing until some more are added in.
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I do wonder if you can simply slice someone's staff in half with a sword or ki sword.
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I mean it should be possible. Definitely if it was a wooden staff then I think it should be possible. But if it was steel then prolly ki sword would have to do the trick.
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Nyoi-bo seems practically indestructable at the very least. It was perfectly capable of standing up to Yamcha's sword without getting cut in half. A wooden staff on the other hand I could see breaking easily.
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Except Yamcha was a weakling physically and ki wise. I see no reason why someone who is strong physically and ki wise can't slice in half your precious little Nyoi-Bo with the sword that I have. Not to mention steel. If a sword can cut through one's femur like a hot knife through butter, steel would be no problem with enough momentum. Maybe even use your ki to engulf the blade in flames and voila. lol
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I think Nyoi-Bo's durability has been commented on a few times in the series actually. Besides that, it's supposed to be based on the Monkey King's actual staff which WAS pretty much indestructible (and supposedly weighed thousands of pounds, so hey maybe Noi-Bo should provide extra bonuses if it's an item carried into battle, haha).

Fun fact: in the old myths, the Monkey King stole the staff from the Dragon King... who simply let him leave with it rather than risk a fight with him.
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do also mind that goku's character was loosely influenced by the monkey king's myth
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Pretty much does not equal completely. ;)

Besides, you can build you own. Everyone in the RPG could have one. If it were a rare item, then sure you can say that it can't be broken in half. But it isn't rare, it's so common I could have 50 of them.
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Which honestly makes no sense if you ask me. It's a magical legendary staff, and I don't see why we don't just group it with Kinto'un ("Nimbus") in the rare items section, or even make it a quest item. It's kind of supposed to be special, you know?
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It's so common I actually have two! :P
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Hmm, both points are pretty valid on the Nyoi-Bo. Maybe there could be a 'true Nyoi-Bo' item. The common ones are lower quality knockoffs made by an enterprising sorcerer at some point?

True Nyoi-Bo could add more strength when it's in use, and have more benefits than one un-dodgeable attack.

Though Korin also showed that he has multiple Kinto'ouns didn't he? Then again, he's some kind of sage and is also the only one who knows how to grow senzu beans, so him being the caretaker of a group of magic clouds makes sense in context.
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Exactly, I agree with Gosai, someone could have easily found it in history and made replicas of it that aren't as strong but still pretty good. So there could be a "True" or "Original" or something staff.
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Keep in mind that Swords can also be easily broken at the strength that we possess on this RPG, so other items such as your staffs and spears would be easily broken as well.
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Keep in mind that the average idea of a Human's Power Level is from 5-8. That is a decently well kept middle aged man.

PL: 8
Ki: 4

Str: 1
Spd: n/a
Vit: 1
Sta: 1
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An average man can lift 100 pounds with both hands. This being said, someone such as Pan, who has roughly 35,000 strength should be able to handle weight up to 3,500,000 pounds with both arms. Granted it would a task, it would still be possible.

So, these items would be easily broken, if given the chance.
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I don't think you guys fully understand the weapons in this game.

Swords can vary greatly from size to shape and even type of metal and sharpness. Rafts on the other handed can be made up of humorous types of woods or metals, however their general use and shape are pretty universal. Therefore it only males sense for there to be a smaller variety of staffs compared to that of swords.

You also have to keep in mind that weapons weren't very popular in the dragonball universe, besides Tapion, Kid Goku, Future Trunks who eventually stopped using his sword, you really don't see that many weapons. Following that idea, weapons shouldn't be considered all that strong.
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Rafts on the other handed can be made up of humorous types of woods or metals, however their general use and shape are pretty universal.

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When I joined this rpg, I loathed the idea of fighters---especially saiyans----using swords. I thought it was lame.

But....for me, I look at it strategically now. It is one more way....to defeat an opponent, and I'm going to take advantage of it :)




I still don't know where any level 2 spears are. Does anyone know where I can get one?
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They can also have a Sail and a Captain.

I blame the auto-correct on my phone for that.
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