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Fusion; My thoughts on it
Topic Started: Dec 5 2010, 04:18 PM (657 Views)
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I was just wondering if that will ever be possible ;) I saw none of that on the main page, so just wondering. Pour your thoughts here, these are mine.

What I thought was(I've become quite familiar with your battle system, stalked your battles a bit =P) during a battle two players would fuse and their skills/stats would combine. Lets say P1 and P2 decide to fuse, now P1 has 10 fundamentals and P2 has 10 fundamentals as well, 10 being the limit of fundamentals they can have(I know there's a limit as I read it on the site, not sure what's the exact limit). Of course they would not get all the 20 skills, but each chose 5 skills of the 10 they each posses. This would apply for each and every type of skill.

Now lets say the limit is a odd number, or is just one limit, then Determination would play a role here. Whoever has the higher Determination, being P1, would get the higher amount of skill choice, so if the odd number is 5, P1 would get 3 skills whereas P2 would get 2 skills. Or as I mentioned before lets say the limit is 1, then whoever has the higher Determination gets to choose the skill. As any other rule this could be bent depending on whether the two players agree on it beforehand and if the referee agrees on it being fair or not, these would just be the default rules. The change on the stats would be something for the admins to decide so its nothing to unfair or anything.

Getting on to the most important problem that people will probably have with this is the turn distribution, I think the easiest way would be(I'll be using the same example as I did above) P1 would go first since he has the most Determination, after P1 goes on the first post, P2 would take on and post and so on.

Anyways that's all I wanted to say about that =P I actually think fighting your own fights is what should really be, but this could make it so 2 not so strong players have a fighting chance against someone who is fairly strong. For example(another one of my examples yes =P) P1 and P2 want to take on P3, but P1 and P2 have 4,000 each while P3 has 10,000. Even proper team work would have a very slim chance against someone who has more than twice their PL. Still there isn't THAT big a difference. Let's say its each 40,000 PL against 100,000 PL. Now they have NO chance since its a larger scale of power. With the fusion(depending on what the admins decide will be the stat effect, but should be that their powers combine completely) they can have more of a fighting chance if they rp right and play the right cards.

OK, now I'm done =P I know it seems in proper for a noobie that hasn't even been fully accepted to be making these kind of bold suggestions, but I think the proper way of being accepted into the community would be to contribute in some way.
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Q: Can we fuse?
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Q: Will fusion ever be implemented?
A: No, probably not on this site.


Q: Well what about if we...
A: No.
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Ouch =P
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The FAQ was right there... Razak doesn't like the nightmare that fusion could cause when it comes to RPing and battles.
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This is from the site's FAQ:

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Q: Can we fuse?
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Q: Will fusion ever be implemented?
A: No, probably not on this site.


Q: Well what about if we...
A: No.


Interestingly enough, Namekian fusion is still listed on the site. I wouldn't particularly mind seeing it added, but it is permanent.

Edit: Well, Pan beat me to it. :P
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Well seems I didn't read enough. My bad =P
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there is a good reason for me to oppose this...we have enough saiyan fans as it is, getting that would entice yet even more people to become saiyan...though I do admit it would be kinda cool.
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There has been thoughts of allowing the fusion between a master and an officer. But other than that...
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There is a token item that allows you to fuse two Saibaimen together...
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there is a good reason for me to oppose this...we have enough saiyan fans as it is, getting that would entice yet even more people to become saiyan...though I do admit it would be kinda cool.

If fusion were to ever be applied it would be for every race, not just saiyans. That would just be unfair.
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I think doing a very hard quest can unlock the location of Potara earrings and you have to search for them for like 4 weeks, then have it give a boost in stats with option to become a hybrid and name change. it doesn't have to be a major system.

But I'm fine without fusion either way. That's just something I've been thinking about.
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I think doing a very hard quest can unlock the location of Potara earrings and you have to search for them for like 4 weeks, then have it give a boost in stats with option to become a hybrid and name change. it doesn't have to be a major system.

But I'm fine without fusion either way. That's just something I've been thinking about.

Potara earings would never be allowed since they are permanent. Maybe an ancient scroll that would teach you the fusion dance?
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We have plenty of permanent boosts. This would just be one for everyone to use. Instead of have 2 PCs fuse, it would be a PC and an NPC. It wouldn't even have to be a significant gain. Something minor.

Gain +2000 PL.

That'd be it. Nothing major.

And it would be easier to implement than a fusion dance.
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Wouldn't that be something lesser than the potara fusion, something like a soul binder? That would make more sense.
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Potara fusion does seem to be pretty potent. Goku almost wanted to fuse with Mr. Satan because it would make him stronger for instance. Regarding other kinds of fusion, Namekians are supposed to fuse with another Namekian NPC for the "Super Namekian" quest on the site. While it's viable in role playing, the mechanics would be something different.
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I think doing a very hard quest can unlock the location of Potara earrings and you have to search for them for like 4 weeks, then have it give a boost in stats with option to become a hybrid and name change. it doesn't have to be a major system.

But I'm fine without fusion either way. That's just something I've been thinking about.

You know, off the top of my head I could see at least one other way to make Potara work.

Keep it hard as hell to get like you said, something like a donation item or hard quest tells you how to obtain a set, then the time spent searching for them.

BUT two people have to do it. Rather than fusing them, it adds the partners' power levels together. You're boosted by the PL of the person you're doing the quest with and vice versa.
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Oh yeah. Cause that's fair. Have someone who is 90K grab someone who is 100K and bam. lol talk about power grubbing.
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True, that. Well, just because I say it's an idea doesn't mean it's a GOOD idea.
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Well I think the biggest reason why fusion will not work is who u decide is the dominant personality. Also who is role playing and who gets the reward from battle. also why I don't think its a good idea that your officer/student/underling fuse is cause then people will just learn the techniques they don't have . then they fuse and they got all their and other guys techniques. hello nightmare. so in my opinion lets just avoid fusions
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That's why Alex doesn't want to Fusion. lol
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That really isn't even an issue, if it's implimented right. Fusion could be a battle only tech, maybe with a steep cost (Hard to get, takes multiple advanced tech slots, ect.) So that way everyone wouldn't be running around with it.

There's plenty of limitations to put on it, too. Both characters must be within a certain amount of PL, it can only last so many turns

As for deciding the dominant personality, neither! It would be only too simple for the two that fused to work together on AIM to create a post. I've done a PS like that, where one person does 100 words, the next does 100, and so on. And then one person posts it, it worked out very well. Except here, they could switch off actions. And if two people cant get together for that...don't fuse :P

Rewards could be handled like normal battles, it would still be considered 2v1 or 2v2. And everything else is just gravy.
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It's still a ruddy nightmare and could become broken very easily.
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I think it could be very fun. Maybe make fusion a place-specific type of spar or battle, just to play with the mechanics. Like how Fairfield works independently, there could be a fusion arena. And then everything Bra said.
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Hello good sir, how about you learn how to have originality and an actual opinion. Thankyou
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