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Negative Energy Wave; Custom Finisher - Technique Mastery
Topic Started: Nov 30 2010, 03:59 PM (1,160 Views)
Drei
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Name: Negative Energy Wave
Damage Level: 9
Action Cost: 2-4
Ki Drain: 40%
SP Cost: [28]Sp - Technique Mastery
Critical Effect: Pierce / Can destroy user planets

Description- Cold gathers a portion of the negative energy throughout the entire universe causing his body to radiate with the appearance of black flames. Cold then harnesses the dark Ki as a tiny orb at his finger tips before firing a dense energy beam that twists and turns at his will as if guided towards the target, in which it tries to drill threw and erupt inside of on a nuclear scale causing harm to everyone in the blast radius including the user. Instead of harnessing the energy at his finger tips Cold can form a perfect sphere around his body and then cause the dark energy to burst in all directions as shards of pure negative energy, which then embed themselves in any obstruction along their path before obliterating them with an explosive finish.
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Technique Mastery $60.00
1,500 Zeni
Increases custom technique slots by 1. Allows you to create one custom technique finisher without using up a finisher slot.


Nothing about it being free for the SP cost.
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I didn't realize the item was changed that much. Its been a long time since I've seen its description.

Edit: Do I get my Zeni back for the two times I purchased that item?
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Nope. Why would you? That makes no sense. It was an item you bought. Just because you buy a vase and it gets stolen doesn't mean you get the money for it, as it were.

I'm being generous and not making you pay for it again for this tech.

Btw, you are lacking the proper amount of SP so this will not be approved until you get that SP. Nor should it have been posted until your wiki reflects you have enough SP.
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I noticed that after you posted the new description for technique mastery. Like I said before I was under the impression the item still allowed someone to learn a technique without SP cost.
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I now have the necessary Sp for this technique.
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I like how you edited it from what it was before.

How exactly does it destroy user planets? Does it go down to the core and explode? If I'm going to approve a custom tech that can destroy user planets it's gonna have to have a very good reason as to how/why.
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in which it tries to drill threw and erupt inside of on a nuclear scale.


*it's through*

think it just burries itself into the planet's core
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Honestly I think only a damage of 10 could destroy a user planet. But that's not my call entirely. Except for custom techs. It would have to be concentrated. Not just one or two that manage to wiggle through tot he core.

Also, what do you mean 'on a nuclear scale'?
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actually I agree Pan, but than deathball should be level 10 too, which it isn't... maybe something for a later discussion
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Also, what do you mean 'on a nuclear scale'?


The explosion would be similar to that of a Nuclear Bomb.
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Are you perhaps implying that the explosion would cause massive amounts of backlash for everyone involved (the shockwave), including your character not to mention the amount of light that is attached to the explosion?

I mean loads of people say that the explosion is similar to a nuclear bomb simply because they have grown up KNOWING that a nuclear bomb's explosion is deadly and awe-inspiring. But they fail to take into account just how damaging it truly is. Not just the nuclear aspect but the regular shockwaves that go with it.

I do not believe I will be allowing it to destroy user planets. If you want one of those get a canon. unless you can convince me as to how this type of tech can cause a planet to be destroyed.
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Are you perhaps implying that the explosion would cause massive amounts of backlash for everyone involved (the shockwave), including your character not to mention the amount of light that is attached to the explosion?


Yes and No. I'm implying that the explosion would harm anyone within a close distance to the blast radius, including my character. I doubt there will be any bright light in my description of this technique, that seems like more a good alignment type of thing to me. I'll be more along the lines of darkness considering the negative energy and all.

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I mean loads of people say that the explosion is similar to a nuclear bomb simply because they have grown up KNOWING that a nuclear bomb's explosion is deadly and awe-inspiring. But they fail to take into account just how damaging it truly is. Not just the nuclear aspect but the regular shockwaves that go with it.


Being similar and actually being nuclear are two different things aren't they. What your describing is a nuclear bomb not something that's just similar.

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I do not believe I will be allowing it to destroy user planets. If you want one of those get a canon. unless you can convince me as to how this type of tech can cause a planet to be destroyed.


I'm not surprised and who are we kidding it will likely come to that anyway.

The beam would drill itself a path to the center of the planet where it would then explode and cause volcanic eruptions, drastic weather changes, earthquakes, etc. until the planet can't handle the chaos and strain of having an empty core and ultimately crumble to pieces.
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Then you should probably mention it damages you as well.

Also your ki drain is off.
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Then you should probably mention it damages you as well.

Done.

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Also your ki drain is off.

Yes, I know. I thought that its cost would be the draw back of having the ability to destroy user planets with a custom finisher.
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Well I did say I'm not going to let it destroy user planets and it's an uneven trade off either way. You don't use ki to destroy a planet with a tech.
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I don't see why you won't approve this technique to destroy planets after you've already approved another in the past with less a description then mine has.

I'm not entirely sure what you meant by that last part. How would you create the beam without Ki? And how would more ki not equal a larger explosion worthy of destroying planets?
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not to offend you Pan, but KC has a point. Remember Frieza consuming his own aura to create the attack that completely desintigrated Namek's core.
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I don't see why you won't approve this technique to destroy planets after you've already approved another in the past with less a description then mine has.

I'm not entirely sure what you meant by that last part. How would you create the beam without Ki? And how would more ki not equal a larger explosion worthy of destroying planets?

I mean you put it into an update that you're destroying a planet. You don't do it in a battle. So there would be no ki drain. See?

I may approve the user planet destroying but only because it takes donating. However, I also don't want to see every Tom, Dick, and Harry trying to make a custom tech that destroys user planets because a custom finisher doesn't take up a slot.

I may have to think about seeing if such a feat would require extra SP. After all, destroying user planets is a rare thing for a tech to do.
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I see, well so long as you don't forget about me I can wait a bit longer, I guess.

I feel I should also state that the last person you personally approved a technique for that could destroy planets didn't spend any more SP then I am currently and they didn't go through this much trouble to get there technique approved either.
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Don't worry. I'll think about it. Don't worry I will also take into account how rare it is for someone to try to destroy a user planet. Right now I'm leaning towards allowing. Give me a day or so.
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Any further thoughts on this yet?
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I'm not a fan of there being basically two techs in one. They are vastly different to each other, the variations. But since you can only use one finisher once...

Whatever I'm tired and not interested in continuing this discussion.

Approved.
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