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| Nondamaging Custom Finisher; Im going to take a risk... | |
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| Topic Started: Dec 14 2010, 07:15 PM (813 Views) | |
| Kaiya Nakano | Dec 14 2010, 07:15 PM Post #1 |
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Alright. This is an Idea I have been working on for so long, its not even funny. Ive heard people say how much Pan hates techs from the manga/anime, and how if i dont do it exactly right, ill be hounded for making an OP move. But, as ill likely be getting Technique mastery this holiday season, im musing over an idea for a custom finisher. I personally think its one of the few cool things Ginyu has, and since its more racial than just a "move from the show", im going to fight for it. SP cost isnt really an issue, i just want to know if this has any, any shot at all, of being approved... PLEASE DO NOT FLAME THIS IF YOU HAVENT READ THE TECH...
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| Volg Zangief | Dec 14 2010, 07:28 PM Post #2 |
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Ki drain would need to be higher. Your method of making it less than impossible to evade will not suffice for the technique was incredibly flawed in the series also. I'm sure you know how that turned out, yet this is only my personal input on the matter. |
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| ravisi | Dec 14 2010, 07:31 PM Post #3 |
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I think if anything it would only last for a set amount of actions or posts. I only say this because you could just put craploads of dp into determination and intelligence making the success rate uber high. |
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| Volg Zangief | Dec 14 2010, 07:38 PM Post #4 |
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That is a great idea! Have it revert automatically in 2-3 weeks, and set the Ki cost to a certain % per week. Also note, it would take quite a bit, in the series Ginyu needed to be at absolute full power to change, and he would have around 25% of the opponents stats in their body. |
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| Diive | Dec 14 2010, 07:50 PM Post #5 |
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A certain % per week? What does that even mean? Ki is only used in battle... it's the only place stats even matter. What would be the advantage of having someone else's body for two weeks? No... having the bodies switch back at the end of the battle is far more practical. And Ginyu didn't need to be at full power... he mortally wounded himself before switching bodies with Goku, then he let Vegeta beat him nearly to death before attempting to take Veggie's body. @Ginyu... as has already been said, you'll probably need to make this tech more flawed to have any hope of getting it approved. But, you already know from a previous conversation we had that I think the idea is great. |
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| Tambourine | Dec 14 2010, 07:52 PM Post #6 |
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Loved the idea, but you'll have some trouble getting it approved. |
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| Veritas | Dec 14 2010, 08:21 PM Post #7 |
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You need to get more familiar with the site's battle system, that you just said made no sense whatsoever. |
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| Volg Zangief | Dec 14 2010, 09:08 PM Post #8 |
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I thought this move was for Role Play purposes...I know the battle system fairly well, forgive my idiotic response. |
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| Codyislost1 | Dec 14 2010, 09:14 PM Post #9 |
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A few things need to be pointed out on this... The main thing is the amount of times that it is allowed to use a finisher. You can only use a finisher once per battle....meaning that they may not have up to 3 times to get the body back. They would have to use the same tech, no?
So...that's void...and that will need to make the tech more draining to use, since it has even more harsh consequences , if succeeded. Another thing that needs to be looked at is action use. 2-3 actions to take someones body is such a low low price to pay.
That should be changed to fit the dramatic levels of the tech. If I was to actually approve it, I would say a whole turn. That's just me. Through changing ones body itself. it should do more damage then just some Ki Blast. You have to actually think about how much it would actually physically drain someone to accomplish such a feat. Yes, the damages would be done to you, so it would be carried over to the person that becomes you, but still...damages need to reflect such a grueling tech.
You need clarification on this...
I would understand if it was successul, that someone would be confused, but imagine yourself on that note as well, if it failed. You go through this process and it does nothing. I beleive this should be another concequence on yourself. If failed, you should have a chance of being confused yourself. |
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| Gosai | Dec 14 2010, 09:16 PM Post #10 |
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It could also have a very steep penalty if blocked. Since your soul is technically outside of your body, if you can't get it into a new vessel, such as your opponent immediately, you could be automatically considered 'dead' if the attack fails? I'm just spitballin' here but it seems apropos. |
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| Kaiya Nakano | Dec 14 2010, 09:31 PM Post #11 |
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Alright. To adress Bebi and Gosai. This is not DBZ. Remember how Bebi told a new member to discard 2/3 of what they knew about the DBZ universe? This is one of those times. If the attack failed, I am stunned for a turn. Thats how it works. The soul "returns" to my body. And the "Body Change" Is going to be considered a racial tech, not one Ginyu learned. It comes with the body, not the mind. It is simply unlocked through his encounter with his anscestors, as shown in an upcoming RP. People who become Ginyu, can use a weakened version to attempt to get their Bodies back. One turn, no Ki cost, and they can use it 3 times, instead of only one. Thats more than fair. Both of these contradict the canon, but this world isnt canon, as Bebi said! I have edited the move to change these things, and I edited the Ki cost, SP cost, and charge time. That is all. |
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| thechosenone816 | Dec 14 2010, 09:46 PM Post #12 |
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This isn't canon: AKA: Balancing required. Even the POTENTIAL of you going up against Pan and coming out victorious is pretty well unbalanced, no matter how remote the chance. |
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| Seta | Dec 14 2010, 09:48 PM Post #13 |
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The whole Body Switch thing always oogied me out to begin with. Yuck. <.< |
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| Diive | Dec 14 2010, 10:25 PM Post #14 |
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Ginyu is the ultimate DBZ creeper... he'll take your body and feel up on it, licking his lips and moaning like it's a White Snake video! XD ...yes I've been drinking... don't judge me... |
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| Kaiya Nakano | Dec 14 2010, 10:34 PM Post #15 |
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Yes... Indeed... *Murrmurred unintelligably* ~ So, who wants these magnificent horns? ~ ~ All I want... Is you... ~ |
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| Codyislost1 | Dec 15 2010, 01:00 AM Post #16 |
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I never once compared what I said to anything Canon with the tech from the series... I was trying to balance out your tech. It was already bad enough through the past that people have created ridicilous techs. I would like to see it happen. It would be interesting. Now, to farther pick at your tech...
So, basically...when this tech is successful, it becomes a completely made up, or pretend tech, that they can use. This so called...weaker version? Man, I wish I could use a tech and have concequences to be some out of the blue made up tech...Remind me to bring that up to alex as a side effect in the tech list. Side Effect: Fake Tech Nice... Use some logic when making this tech, Ginyu. You are trying to create a first, and very unique tech. Get real with it and try. The main problem you are having right now is simply creating this tech to be compatible with the system. For example of things needed to be changed...
If it was imbued to your Mind and Spirit, then it would travel with you. You stated that the body has it. That would mean someone with Ginyus body would be able to use that tech. So, if the chameleon and you switched bodies, yes, you would beable to change colors, because you are in the Chameleons body. Bravo, you got that right. I'm happy. Remember , though, the Chameleon, who is in your body, would have a nice hunger for bugs... Keep that in mind. |
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| Yon | Dec 15 2010, 11:28 AM Post #17 |
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How about this: Put less restrictions on rules for evading it or dodging it. The attack itself can be defended against by a henchmen. The henchman idea (I.e. Throwing a saiba in its path is like throwing a frog in its path) - can only be used once per battle since the tech is a finisher - increase ki drain to 40 percent if fail, 20 percent if you succeed in dealing it to an opponent - Since you punch yourself in the stomach, your inflict the critical effect pierce and immobilize on yourself if you lose since you self critical yourself and have a hard time moving from it. |
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| Kaiya Nakano | Dec 15 2010, 06:03 PM Post #18 |
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Edited, so that there is only one tech, Bebi. I kind of see the ridiculousness of that now... And Cygnus... Im not going to change the Ki wheter it suceeds or fails because, honestly, that makes no sense. |
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| Tambourine | Dec 15 2010, 06:07 PM Post #19 |
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Finishers can be used once per battle. |
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| Kaiya Nakano | Dec 15 2010, 06:09 PM Post #20 |
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Per person, right? Or is it only one per battle? |
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| Yon | Dec 15 2010, 07:22 PM Post #21 |
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That was a typo. I meant per battle. It is fixed now. For the record, Ginyu, I requested more ki be displaced if you failed since it is the consequence of using a powerful move and failing. That way the risk is high for using it. |
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| Kaiya Nakano | Dec 15 2010, 07:41 PM Post #22 |
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To be honest, I think the risk is right now too high for the reward, unless its a last ditch effort. So I will kindly say no... |
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| Kagetane Hiruko | Dec 15 2010, 08:37 PM Post #23 |
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I like the idea of the tech, because it IS after all Ginyu's signature move...but there is one thing I have to stress out. example: you with pl 10k use this tech on me pl 155k, if I lose with your body and you win with mine, that means you get battle bonus based on your stats, meaning: the 10k and I as loser get battle bonus based on my stats, meaning the 155k, because you didn't defeat a 155k person, but a 10k person. I hope this wasn't to complicated
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| Codyislost1 | Dec 15 2010, 08:42 PM Post #24 |
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Nah, I think he would get your stats, simply because he did beat you. It would have beaten you with strategy. He went against a stronger opponent and won. That's like saying you wouldn't get stats IF your Split Form delivered the final blow. |
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| Kagetane Hiruko | Dec 15 2010, 08:58 PM Post #25 |
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how does strategy apply on a nearly impossible to fail technique? |
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