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Post by Quark on Apr 15, 2021 2:40:52 GMT -5
Suggestion Name: Frieza's Starship Rework Suggestion Type: Item Suggestion Details: Twenty grand seems unnecessarily expensive to get this ship, to the point where nobody really bothers. 10,000 to 12,000 would be more reasonable as is, though if it is to remain at 20, I would suggest that it be reworked to count as a user planet for the purposes of upgrades.
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Post by Goku Jr on Apr 15, 2021 11:53:17 GMT -5
The issue with what you pointed out is that there was a fix to this. This is why they made the gains per battle go off the #25th on the Top 25 instead of between each other. No matter who you battle, you will get the same gains. So 2 new players or a group of new players could battle whore amongst each other and get gains ezpz. Can we please actually read over how the site has changed since those times that keep getting a call back? That happens a lot now. All I see are call backs to the past and not enough call ups to what has changed to make the site better. Not all the changes that happened since then were bad, only a select hand full. Great changes such as Epic Quests still giving you +140 all stats I guess. Nobody is motivated to write 10k words for that because at that point its diminishing returns. Outside of battling there's no point in grinding and turning RPing into a chore to try and catch up with people who gamed the system in the past but won't let new members do the same now (speaking in general not at anyone). The only people in the top 25 that exist or aren’t IRL busy is: Lucas/Yua/Kotarou doesn’t really battle in general. I don’t know Raiosu’s life. Everyone else on the top 25 doesn’t exist anymore or are so grossly inactive they are not worth mentioning. Goku Jr you really need to actually look at who’s on the site instead if just crying strong people don’t do anything when the top three (Hit, Emi, Riya) alone are always willing to do shit with people. Your complaints about the strategy guide and trolling and shit are legit but you just make your whole point invalid starting with that. Like Aria said though, the change that everyone gets the same gains was so weak people didn’t have to worry about “gate keeping” and could just get decent gains fighting anyone. It was changed to encourage more battling on every level. Y’all jumping to change it to what you think is “fair” without understanding why it was changed to begin with and then go on to cry about the same shit it was so recently changed to help. But this is a suggestion thread. Please comment on suggestions and make new suggestions and not rant about dumb shit plzkthx. If you wanna argue, DM me or @ me in the server. (That list is a good reference if you wanna battle tho!!) Never "cried" about anything I just call it how I see it on the discord. New members need more guidance and direction than we've given them for the past five or so years. Our new member retention rate is horrible and that's an urgent matter to address imo. Staff is working with everyone to improve the system as a whole, not just battling. No one is "jumping" to do anything. Not a rant. I'm commenting on the donation cap. I'm all for it but as things are I wouldn't be in a rush to implement it. At the end of the day I'd rather Goku donate his way to 1mil PL and remain active than have him burnout writing PS fanfiction and battling and sparring only to go afk at 300k PL. Like you said before, we're all adults. Thank you for your concern for the uncluttering of the thread but please leave that concern to the staff team who will continue to dedicate time into helping you and our fellow members have the best experience possible.
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Post by Kale on Apr 15, 2021 13:46:17 GMT -5
Suggestion Name: Quest Cleaning Suggestion Type: Technical Suggestion Details:This is threefold: - Let someone (I wouldn't mind doing this) look at all the current quests to compile them and remove any and all quests which have such childish, bad prompts they simply wouldn't get any interest. - Remove the -10% thingy for doing quests alone. It makes sense for general rp, but quests are generally done solo because of the prompts, the fact their general stats don't really incite working together, etc. So if the rewards aren't upgraded, at least get rid of the penalty for soloing in regards to quests. - Alliance quests: we could make some quests that must be done specifically by 2 or more members of the same alliance, give good rewards, but also can only be done once by any given alliance and person (to avoid people from doing it more than once by hopping alliances and to incentivice alliances to go for these with larger groups) The -10% penalty was removed a while ago. I am up for going through the quest and looking at the rewards and prompts to see as to how they can be improved.
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Post by Lemon on Apr 16, 2021 11:17:10 GMT -5
Suggestion Name: Removing Racial Techs on swap Suggestion Type: Site Mechanic Suggestion Details: Please just make it when you change race, by character changing (or if you want, you can add in any other race change item) you don't have to use Amnesia Greens to get rid of those techs
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Post by Riki on Apr 17, 2021 11:14:38 GMT -5
Suggestion Name: Additional CE's Suggestion Type: Battle Suggestion Details: Fear|Dread: When successful, the victim is so overcome by fear that they can't perform any offensive actions in their next post. [crit chance is halved when opponent's determination is 50% higher than the user's.] Rage|Berserk: When successful, the victim's so overcome by rage and bloodlust that they can't perform any defensive actions in their next post. [crit chance is halved when opponent's intelligence is 50% higher than the user's.] Fear/Dread is just Blind and Rage/Berserk is ridiculously OP lol
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Post by Cell on Apr 18, 2021 4:24:29 GMT -5
Seeing some good stuff on here. Just a reminder to keep it civil and focused.
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Post by Cell on Apr 18, 2021 4:27:15 GMT -5
Suggestion Name: Consecutive Activity Counter Suggestion Type: Site Mechanic Suggestion Details: Missing an update sucks because you'll be behind by 15 weeks for your consecutive activity counter. We're all adults with a lot of stuff going on and sometimes we can't update for a week. Additionally, people are getting +20 all stats even if they do not RP. There is a large disconnect here. It should just be changed to "Activity" instead of "consecutive activity". Any update where you are claiming any form of RP gains, you may also gain +20 all stats. So if you miss a week, you don't have to build ALL the way back up, you'll get the +20 next time you RP. If you aren't writing, you aren't getting free passive stats. One less thing for staff to approve and members to keep track of.
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Post by Cell on Apr 18, 2021 4:33:30 GMT -5
This one might be unpopular, lol. Just putting it out there and testing the water!
Suggestion Name: Donation Items Suggestion Type: Site Mechanic Suggestion Details: Restricting limited donation items to one per member instead of one per character. Minor second souls already cannot use it, but major second souls can. I'd suggest only allowing major second souls to have one if the main soul doesn't. Seems weird and unfun to newer players if one person has 3 different limited items. Also requiring use of the item in question at least once every 30 days. The Baba's Ball item was hoarded for literally years without being used which was a point of frustration for many people.
Obviously this might not apply to every item, but it'd apply to every item that can be used like that.
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Post by Lemon on Apr 19, 2021 23:33:58 GMT -5
Spars are supposed to be quick and dirty, not long and complex. Discord spars are fine, and people's lives are all different. I understand you are against really short content, or really small amounts of words granting bonuses, but your suggestion to take away that option will not benefit the site at all.
Instead of outright removing because you personally feel they are too short, suggest something more constructive.
Discord Spars can reward less, they already are hard enough to give rpc.
So as an example, you receive +15 all stats for discord spars that don't reach 600 words minimum, +10 exp unless they reach 600 words minimum.
And then gems can give +10 all stats and exp (same as above with WC limit), and Telepathic Link can give +13 all and +10 exp (same as above with WC limit).
These would be better compromises. Reward basically cut in half for not doing them on the forum.
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Post by Dr. Ghast on Apr 19, 2021 23:46:34 GMT -5
Spars are supposed to be quick and dirty, not long and complex. Discord spars are fine, and people's lives are all different. I understand you are against really short content, or really small amounts of words granting bonuses, but your suggestion to take away that option will not benefit the site at all. Instead of outright removing because you personally feel they are too short, suggest something more constructive. Discord Spars can reward less, they already are hard enough to give rpc. So as an example, you receive +15 all stats for discord spars that don't reach 600 words minimum, +10 exp unless they reach 600 words minimum. And then gems can give +10 all stats and exp (same as above with WC limit), and Telepathic Link can give +13 all and +10 exp (same as above with WC limit). These would be better compromises. Reward basically cut in half for not doing them on the forum. I'll tell you what, it isn't about lives being different or personal preference, it's about at the very least showing some effort. I don't expect longwinding spars in discord, but at the very least, I do expect that there is some effort put into it. Writing down a single sentence takes about what? ten seconds? Like, in all fairness, if using ten seconds is too much to ask, one should start wondering if they have perhaps not chosen the wrong kind of hobby. What's even worse is that this response comes from an rp guide... Discord spars are indeed meant to be quick and dirty, but they should still be spars, not a morning greeting to your neighbour.
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Post by Lemon on Apr 20, 2021 0:00:47 GMT -5
My point still stands that it shouldn't be "remove the option", it instead should be "change the requirements" or "better incentive".
So do you have a better way than just "remove the option"? I very much doubt you will get much support for just outright removal.
From what I see, you are suggesting people need to do their hobby in a certain way. I disagree. I doubt we'd be able to come to an easy agree though, as you seem to be set on removal. I don't know if that's all your thinking, but since you only addressed part of what I said, I can't really think anything but that.
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Post by Dr. Ghast on Apr 20, 2021 0:10:46 GMT -5
My point still stands that it shouldn't be "remove the option", it instead should be "change the requirements" or "better incentive". So do you have a better way than just "remove the option"? I very much doubt you will get much support for just outright removal. From what I see, you are suggesting people need to do their hobby in a certain way. I disagree. I doubt we'd be able to come to an easy agree though, as you seem to be set on removal. I don't know if that's all your thinking, but since you only addressed part of what I said, I can't really think anything but that. Removal is an option, but if you haven't noticed I also mentioned that spars that are shown to be nothing more substantial than: hi, hi, bye, bye... could just be ignored as a kind of reminder that no matter how little effort is spent, if just one punch is thrown it technically can be seen as a spar. Any other methods: Spars that do not even reach 50 words: 0 exp, 0 stats, 0 RPC Treat discord spars similarly to forum spars, but for the entire rewards. 50 words: +5 exp, +5 all stats, +50 zeni, +1 rpc 100 words: +10 exp, +10 all stats, +100 zeni, +2 rpc Etc up to 250 wc. If you cap that at 5x, you get decent spar bonuses for actually less than most forum spars take in regards to time and efford incl. wordcount. This would imho, somewhat improve the discord spars' overall content without actually becoming a copy of the forum spars.
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Post by Lemon on Apr 20, 2021 0:28:55 GMT -5
In my opinion, removal is an option if the thing is being abused and can't be tweaked or adjusted easily.
Those suggestions are something more preferable than outright removal, but if I had to adjust something, keep the rpc at +1 unless a certain threshold above normal is reached. Everything else as part of it I can get behind, though capping the normal max gains at what forum spars give (I am assuming every 50 words would increase the gains by +5, and not doubling).
If a spar is just "hi, hi, bye" then yes. That probably shouldn't count. Four words is way too little. Giving it a smaller WC than forum posts is something I can get behind, though I'd personally suggest something like 100 words minimum from both players. I don't think it should be hard to hit that in a discord spar.
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Post by Cell on Apr 20, 2021 3:08:45 GMT -5
I do have notes down to alter discord spars just as a FYI. I’d rather nerf their gains, but implementing a word minimum is also an option being discussed. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with short spars but they should get matching gains.
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Post by Quark on Apr 20, 2021 3:45:56 GMT -5
Suggestion Name: Bogus spars Suggestion Type: RP-site mechanic Suggestion Details: It's simple really, in discord seem to have devolved to the point of just two people saying hello and goodbye in four lines. This is NOT what amounts to a spar and should NOT amount to any spar bonus being earned. So either we need staff to simply ignore this kind of spar or remove the discord option entirely as had been done to AIM spars for a while back in the day when they devolved into a similar fashion. For the record, AIM spars existed until AIM no longer did. Then they became discord spars. I know that Revan has been working on a fairer economy with respect to spar vs rp vs battle gains, so I won't step on his toes there. However I would suggest, with those changes in mind, that if there is a minimum instituted that anyone who doesn't hit the minimum simply be awarded the +25EXP and nothing else so that they make a conscious choice about what they want rather than dictate terms. Abuse would, as it always should, be handled on a case by case situation by staff rather than legislating the masses based on the actions of the few.
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