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Post by Conscious Oldbie on Jan 26, 2020 16:56:18 GMT -5
10 years ago, this community was off-the-charts toxic and that toxicity stemmed from an owner who - at that time - ran the community with Bizarro World ethics; Good was Bad, Bad was Good, lying was ethical. If you were easy to trigger, you were going to get mentally and emotionally violated, with the staff members' full endorsement. On the regular. Without mercy.
I'm here because sometimes people change. Sometimes communities become better run as their members grow older, and the community makes the collective decision to do better moving forward. Many of you, who were teenagers when this was all going on, grew up into what I hope are now lucid, functional adults.
In the interest of transparency, this community came to mind because a conversation recently came up where I mentioned once being terrible at Wikis, and now being a pro at creating and maintaining them. That, and I would hope that time has aged some people into wiser, kinder human beings. If the answer is "Yes" that the community has progressed in that substantially healthier direction, I would be happy to create a character.
I already know that my writing and artistic abilities can effortlessly meet and exceed expectations.
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Post by Android #16 on Jan 26, 2020 17:14:56 GMT -5
Who tf is this cuck
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 17:19:19 GMT -5
New forum, who dis?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 17:23:32 GMT -5
A mystery... we like those. To be transparent knowing who you were previously would help. But I won’t hold my breath. Normally posts such as these not much is garnered.
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Post by Lilim on Jan 26, 2020 17:46:23 GMT -5
I like to think a decent portion of the site can be civil; sometimes, things get out of hand, particularly on Discord, but there are a couple of alliances/groups that are more softer around the edges than others.
That's not to say the whole of the site is uncivil, which is not the case. More than a few proper conversations have happened, and while there is probably some toxicity to be found, its easy enough to know where to avoid it, I think. So overall, we have a pretty decent community outside of maybe a choice few. That being said, if you're still interested, feel free to contact me here on the forums for help or on Discord if you want the tour. Azazel, Yan, and Shell/Hit can get you set up with a character should you wish to join our community.
While what Azazel is true--threads like these aren't regarded fondly--Im willing to help you out if you're looking to rejoin and get back into writing.
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Post by Conscious Oldbie on Jan 26, 2020 19:03:11 GMT -5
Alex, you once had me do some web development for you, then you denied ever even having me do it. You wanted me to basically rename every single image name and file to a new collated form. It would have normally taken someone a couple of hours to do it the way you specified, but I was able to do it before the half hour marker.
DutchTrunks also illegally intercepted Zeni in a transfer between myself and an alliance mate. Another time, a member of staff said they docked money for my ethnic character's "Unpaid Child Support", and you authorized your Updaters to leave my trainings unupdated until I removed the Zeni from my character.
When I made a remark about how unwelcome and inappropriate those racist jokes were (and you enforcing it in your utmost as Staff), I was for YEARS afterwards, accused of "playing the race card" when I referred back to occasions where this, and similar "jokes" were made about my character's ethnicity. I left, and you followed my departure by firing a BAN at my departing back.
Years later, when I discussed rejoining, you told me I would have to pay you $200 through PayPal if I wanted unbanned.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 19:09:37 GMT -5
Max confirmed.
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Post by Yua on Jan 26, 2020 19:16:10 GMT -5
Also, Azazel is't Alex. So...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 19:18:09 GMT -5
Though my character name is Azazel... I am not Alex... don’t get confused by his old AIM handle. So there is that. Seems like you held onto quite a bit of hate though. The whole PayPal thing sounds like Alex though.
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Post by Conscious Oldbie on Jan 26, 2020 19:28:45 GMT -5
I was cyberstalked for half a decade after my departure from the RP, all kinds of macabre tales spun about me and my "shenanigans". I never even knew it was happening until some people came forward over the past 3 years or so and apologized (after they'd all eventually been treated to the same). For years, it was "Oh god, it's Max" on sites I'd never been on before, with people wearing new names and feeling no obligation to identify themselves or their role in the aforementioned events.
I confess, I lacked the presence of mind to articulate what was happening to me like I can now. Spending some time on Reddit, and seeing screenshots from 4chan - and news articles about some of the content one can find there - kind of put my experiences on ADBZRPG into clearer perspective. I also went from working fast food to working corporate settings, and my ability to self-advocate and express what I was *actually* thinking improved as I started spending less time in my head and more time out and among other functional adults.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2020 19:37:15 GMT -5
As someone who is familiar with old Max, I think the better question here is: Have you changed much?
Don't blame the community because while there has been more than a fair share of "toxicity" at any particular point on the website, you are not innocent of adding and in many cases amplifying that. You would continually fail to follow simple rules that all members were held up to and yes, you would play the race card when a member of staff would enforce rules on you. Yes, you became a meme on the cbox and the site because of your over the top reactions and accusations of racism - even against non-white staff members. But news flash, you were never singled out. You were not the only over the top character the join and become a running meme who people groan and say, "Oh god its ____"
The straight fact is this, you could have rejoined and not said a damn word and nobody would bat an eye at you. This post could have your join form but instead, you want to use it as a platform to try and cause more drama and make a big deal out of nothing.
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Post by Kale on Jan 26, 2020 20:16:17 GMT -5
There's no need to be jaundice about it and assign a ulterior motive, but Bebi is right about the fact you could have just made a join form and you could have joined the discord and spoke to a staff member about the state of the community instead. You were not around during my time here so I can't validate either side of the story of you or the people who have known you.
However during my time here I would say that a good deal of people here are respectable, even when there are times we may bicker and fail to handle our disputes with tact. There may be some you'll be fond of there may be some you won't care for at all.
I'll just have to see how you conduct yourself here if you decide to rejoin. My policy is you respect me, I respect you, and if we can't respect each other we simply won't fuck with one another, but if you honestly just want to have fun on an RP site and not be caught in a toxic community I can honestly say I welcome it and I am sure that there are some who'd be happy to have you.
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Post by Alex on Jan 26, 2020 20:42:36 GMT -5
Donate me $50 and I'll allow it.
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Post by Conscious Oldbie on Jan 26, 2020 20:43:05 GMT -5
I don't conceal my identity because I can't. Someone else's ability to lie about one's online identity merely means they possess mental faculties I do not. Before I learned tact and discretion, this did horrible things for my social interactions with others, as I'm sure you can imagine.
I won't accept blame for things I didn't do, but I definitely was no saint. I assumed everyone was "in on it", so I didn't bother to tell anyone what was going on, so the people harassing me 100% got to spin the narrative as much as they liked, and I made it super easy for them. Arguing with them pointlessly until they pushed me into Meltdown Mode only made their side of the story all the more believable.
In the past 7 years, I have learned how to surround myself with positive people, and ignore people who are.....let's say, *difficult*. I have become better at associating with people who want the same things I do (to write fun stories in good faith), and to decide for myself whether or not I am a good fit with the places I join *BEFORE* someone has to step in and make the judgment call FOR me.
If there are issues, I know how to speak to the staff before things escalate. If I feel they're being uncooperative, I know how to POLITELY excuse myself and take space until I can trust myself to keep my interactions with others respectful and free of toxicity. I don't feel a need to pretend that circumstances escalating is "all according to my master plan", but will instead state *outright* when I'm in over my head and am bowing out to prevent escalation.
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Post by Conscious Oldbie on Jan 26, 2020 20:47:22 GMT -5
Oh. I also learned that, on forums that didn't require E-Mail Validation, there was some impersonation going on. They could use my name, they could even use my e-mail address, and I might never be the wiser. Even easier if my inbox decided to tuck the registration notifications into the Spam folder. At that point, it wasn't even necessary that someone hack my e-mail or anything, because the security on those forums weren't setup very well.
I almost forgot about that. Believe me, when someone is RPing as "Maximillion" (and very poorly at that), and describing him as having "red hair" or "gray eyes" (traits he's never had), it becomes super easy to spot. My character has had ONE look for 15+ years, and it isn't liable to change lol.
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