Dimensional Battling

That’s part of the suggestion. A big part of the suggestion also seems to be no kill no steal no jump battles with alliance mates. Added restrictions to prevent abuse seems wise tbh.

Yeah that was my suggestion lolol. Allow kill/steal so it’s still like… a battle. But disallow things like siphon. Any unique post-battle action. Unique being operationalized as a non-kill, non-steal action.

I personally just do not like the battle system. I dislike how it works, how labyrinthine it can seem, generally just don't "get it," so this is ultimately something I just won't engage with, especially if we're tacking on killing/stealing onto something that would normally be physically impossible. You're Dimensional battling specifically because you're on different planets and wish to do so in a kind of 'Gem of Telepathy' kind of way. If folks are going to demand that some level of risk be involved, then whatever--I just won't engage with it. I'm kosher with being able to battle alliance members with it, since that would provide a great way to actually, you know, figure out how everything works. People will point at training battles, but I've never seen a training battle actually perform its role as teaching someone how the system works.

And even then, we have folks on here that have wildly different interpretations of the system and significantly different opinions on how it should work. Not going to lie, I don't have time for that.

The more risk you attach to things on the site, the more folks will eventually choose to not use those systems. I get it, as a DBZ site, you're kind of here because of the battle sequences, but I've seen friendly fights and hostile fights, and they all seem tedious as all hell. I'd rather not.

I guess what I'm saying is, you all do what you wanna do with the system and this technique, but the less attractive and/or more laborious you make something, the less likely folks will want to touch it.

Honestly. I don't see the point of making kill/steal doable in Dimensional Battle. There are already things such as mandatory recovery despite win or loss and reduced gains to make it for it lacking the risk of a regular battle. A two month cooldown to be able to dimensional battle alliance mates again is a good way to prevent a likely source of abuse, plus halved gains and mandated recovery whether its a win or loss would also help in preventing it from being exploited for easy gains. 

As for what Ghast said about me always avoiding kill/steal battles, it's erroneous. I have done multiple battles with people who would have or have stolen from/killed me(you have been in one of those battles) and I only have attempted to use the prison system on people I sneak or get sneaked by. Those situations involve someone being forced to battle or lose something and if they choosing to do the fight they are taking the risks. There isn't a way to make someone dimensional battle so whether that's a factor mostly depends on whether the ones agreeing to fight are willing to put that on the table in the first place.

Going back to what Lilim said. I see the point being made about tacking on elements of risks making the option less desirable. There should be a way to battle without worrying about getting it getting  jumped or players getting killed/stolen so they can enjoy a way to play the game or learn the battle system without the risks even if it can't be done as often or yields less gains so it isn't abused.

This is what Dimensional Battling is currently:

It's already no kill/no steal. It's still a battle. The only change this thread is suggesting is that it allows alliance mates to battle and is more accessible (via learning it on Toffit versus for 100 SP in ND or doing three quests in ND). The more accessible part is where we reach into potential abuse. If you're saying you do not want it more accessible with the no kill/no steal rule I can understand your point, though it is still accessible rn. Honestly, if we add the alliance mate thing people would probably try and grab it as it has more use but most people are fine with the risks and would rather take full gains. I definitely would rather the risk with the additional restrictions Bebi has added to curb the aforementioned potential abuse.

The problem is that battles between alliance mates ought to have something at stake (the challenge thing) while dimensional battling in its proposed form essentially equates to a tougher, heavier spar or much easier coordinated training battles and the likes, without needing to be on the same planet (which can sometimes be a hassle if you have completely different goals, orgs, etc). The whole idea of separating it with some serious restrictions also prevents it from being nothing more than an easy gain and makes you focus more on the enjoyment and fun of the battles themselves rather than what's to gain/what's at stake.