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Post by Goku on Jan 26, 2024 22:24:06 GMT -5
I'll do my top 4.
IMO, being one of the best battlers doesn't necessary mean winning the most, or all of your battles does not make a good battler. If you mince mechanics, cannot make it exciting, abuse or withhold rulings, or are otherwise a pain in the ass ooc/ic, then it doesn't matter. A good battle record does not a good battler make.
In no particular order: Yan, Chaos, Old 13, Aria.
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Post by Toma on Jan 27, 2024 0:33:34 GMT -5
Chaos, Doan, Aria, Kular should be the Mt Rushmore of ADBZ battlers
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Post by Yajirobe on Jan 27, 2024 1:01:03 GMT -5
Chaos, Doan, Aria, Kular should be the Mt Rushmore of ADBZ battlers Kular over Shell??? We gonna have to open up some debates on these opinions.
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Post by Puar on Jan 27, 2024 1:42:30 GMT -5
It might look like its in order, but this is in order of who popped up in my mind lolol.
1. Yan My QB this season has a saying he goes by religiously: Locked in. What did that mean to him? Paying attention to the small details. That is what Yan does. Quick learner and breaks down pros and cons of situational battling really well. A very frustrating battler to go against, hands down and finds ways to fluster me (because he knows me, cheater). When he gets into a fight, I always put my money on him. He isn't just aggressive in battle, but he is aggressive outside of it. He is not the type to hold back on you like the true philly native he is. You fight him, you better be ready.
2. Shell This to me is the definition of a grizzled vet, no meme and no joke. His battle experience shows and his writing is detailed and good. It actually is weird that I have never fought him before, because I always has his back (he is a great person outside of battling, but this isn't a top 10 person's list). Will have to change that. We have to fight for supremacy.
3. Chaos What does Mike Tomlin say? The standard is the standard. Chaos is the standard. I live off his previous reign of terror that bled into my start on the site, and it carries over throughout my stay here. I've fought him three times and even though all three were losses the last one was actually a tie for me and him personally (we Double KO'd each other because Toma was a weirdo that gave him bleed damage?). We have to settle that tie.
4. Doan I will echo Yan on this one, a very smart battler and a very good compliment to Chaos. Together these two are a force to be reckoned with. I enjoy his writing so much too.
5-8. The Main UT Nexus[Goku, Digu, Recoome, Brodock [OG AoE]] Nah, I can't make a list and not mention this terror. Its in the name for a reason. I don't care what opinions anyone has of how they battle, their teamwork causes chaos and moves heads. You see one member move and you have your eyes on 4 or 5 different updates. They each provide a niche in battle that attempts to cover the lacking of anothers most of the time, and generally one of the biggest pains to deal with. I love it.
9. Joseph Listen. I have been molding Joseph for a while now, and yes, I pick on him purposely to make him better and he gets better each and every time. His writing is starting to feel really good to match with his opponents now. He also sticks to his character's code really well. There is no real break in character, and he even gets taken advantage of over it. Its good when a writer can keep his character in check.
10. Revan Meh, listen. 2013 me would not have gotten better without Perrin or this guy. I told my strategies to Revan all the time and when there was a problem in it or there could be something better, Revan had an answer. When the battle system was a certain way, he was really good at it. I know for a fact if he buckled down and adapted to what we got going on that he would become a dominant force. Admin responsiblites and life will always rob him of that chance because of time so I am alway sad I don't get to see that. But I am adamant that he is a very underrated battler.
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Post by Toma on Jan 27, 2024 6:23:11 GMT -5
Chaos, Doan, Aria, Kular should be the Mt Rushmore of ADBZ battlers Kular over Shell??? We gonna have to open up some debates on these opinions. To be fair, I was around more consistently (lol) when Kular was around.
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Post by Alex on Jan 27, 2024 10:00:54 GMT -5
Maragai when he was Blackfire. Dude was single handedly responsible for caps of battle gains after he beat Hal when he was Chill. Vier won a lot so deserves a mention but was a little rules lawyery and advanced spammy for my liking. Chaos at his peak. Shell pretty much consistently since he was Supreme Kai. Goku, when he was Lilly or Bebi. He wrote those characters super well in and out of battle. Tasuda for the same reasons as Goku. Yan and Aria for the same reasons. They both understand the system better than anyone. I absolutely would not put Backfire/Maragai on any top battlers list. He was extremely gimmicky with a custom tech that allowed him to summon another entity that could also heal and fight for him. Vier Dragon Dive'd a Spirit Bomb and died. I also can't ever remember a battle he fought that he wasn't supposed to win by shear stat advantage. Goku is a better RPer than battler but when he's in his element he's good. I'd say an honorable mention though. Disagree with Tasuda. I'd say OldGoten/Ant(?) was better. The one that stole OldDabura's Zekka Gauntlets and was the first to get the elder gems. Rest I agree with though. Thread is for nominations. Not arguing. Don't spam or I'll warn ya.
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Post by Kale on Jan 27, 2024 11:16:24 GMT -5
These nominations are in no particular order.
Chaos. Chaos developed his reputation for a reason. As a writer he's excellent and engaging and its incredible how high quality his RP is even when its few and far between. In terms of skill I agree with Seven that he is the standard. My battle with him is definitely in my top three. I consider the best battle I've had outside of the ones with Aria. He's that guy who hangs around and isn't really doing anything but when he does do something you know its gonna be good. Plus he's chill and just a bro.
Shell. He is debatably the best battler on the site. He has a lot under his belt to back it up. Between fighting three members of UT at once as Whis and always being a step ahead whether he's one of his characters or a bounty target he kicks ass. I've heard him describe the way he battles as taking the his opponent in deep water and they drown. I've only battled him three times but I could see his skills in all of them and learned something every fight.
Aria. Battling him while he was Anna was my very first battle on the site and since the first Puar fight the guy basically became my coach. If Yan is good with knowing what his options are, Aria is the best at finding new options. His playbook is always expanding with things most people wouldn't have thought of. He knows how to use the small details and information from posts even much earlier on to his advantage and he how any build you could think of. He knows how to think on the fly to get an advantage or dig himself out of being at disadvantage.
Yan. In any type of game or competition, I believe one of the core keys to winning is knowing your options and when to use them and when not to use them. He has some of the most optimized battle builds on the site and knows how to use them. He isn't as creative as Aria in terms of mechanics and RP but he certainly knows what the best thing he is able to do at a given moment and it shows. Revan once said the way to beat Yan is to get serious before he does and I can see why. Like with Aria I discreetly borrow what I've seen from him in battle and his builds.
Honorable Mentions
Lilim. Despite he himself saying he's bad. I honestly think he could be a great battler if he wanted to be. He's just not interested in that aspect of the site but from what I've seen from the battles with Recoome and Tarble the potential is there. I honestly think Lilim would have won those fights if his goal wasn't to lose. I'd say that besides Puar, Lilim has the best melee-based build on the site. Even though he hasn't battled in years if I fought Lilim I'd be worried, and not just because I'd be punching a bit above my weight class but because Lilim's build is that good for one on one fights. I'd bet on Lilim if the battle was against any one but who I listed above.
Krillin. Krillin made a name for himself here on the site as the hero. A character with that type of presence had been missing for quite a long time. He may not have been on the site as long as people like me and the other veterans but he surprisingly skilled. He could hang with other skilled players and even went after UT and was able to hang with them. I liked his RP and his protrayal of Krillin, he made it his own. His build was also unique and good for what he was going for being able to fight multiple weaker opponent's or one stronger opponent and defense heavy with heavy hitting potential as well. I took some inspiration for my build with Joe.
Ember. I love seeing newer members active and working to compete on the site. Ember's performance against Beelzubub stood out to my as surprisingly skilled for such a new member. Like Krillin I could see talent there and I know she'll get even better as she continues on the site.
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Post by Chaotzu on Jan 31, 2024 21:42:12 GMT -5
I think it's pretty important to separate people that have amassed valuable mechanics in this Cookie Clicker rip of a game from people that are actually the best at battle RP and the tactics behind battling.
Chaos
Like Aria said, Chaos is the standard. I saw a few people knock him for various reasons, but those, IMO, are all related to him being inactive and not being the best at Cookie Clicker. He does more with what he has than anyone ever has. He writes the best battle RP the site has ever seen. He has the same character he had when he joined the site, and through all his fantastic battles it has never become a slog to read his battle posts. He elevates the game of his opposition and his teammates just because we want to be worthy of sharing the field of battle with him.
Aria
I've faced off against him a few times (our head-to-head is as even as it gets!) but I've also been in the "war room" for plenty of battles against him. He's a dawg and while sometimes he's a lil gamey, that's just him playing his best hand in a tight spot. He's always got a trick up his sleeve, and I don't just mean some mechanic he's collected and saved for the opportune time.
Joey
I've been in the trenches with the homie countless times, whether I was actually in the battle with him or not. He's as tactically sound as they come, and he has an excellent feel for flair in battle. I want to knock him off for getting trumped by Orache, but we all know that being your own ref in a battle is ridiculous and gives you the ability to make decisions that are normally too risky.
Vier
Say what you will about Vier, I was there in that 2009-11 era and he was a menace. He knows how to write his opponents into a corner, and he knows how to make the most of his arsenal. There have been more rule changes to stop Vier than there have been for anyone else in the game.
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Since I saw Yan shit-talking me in discord while I was GONE AND UNABLE TO DEFEND MYSELF, I feel it's important to say that I feel I'm as good tactically as anyone on this site has ever been. I'm also a better battle RPer than the vast majority, with only a few people I'd be willing to admit were better than me. Gimme a game of Quad, or a RP tournament, and I'll thump ALL YALL.
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Post by Shell on Feb 1, 2024 12:42:17 GMT -5
Don't let facts get in the way of a good story.
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Post by Goku on Feb 1, 2024 13:28:37 GMT -5
Don't forget that a lot of these answers are heavily dependent on when a person nominating was active. Nobody should be feeling snubbed by not being nominated because people were not here or inactive at your prime. I know I had some activity, but was largely inactive from like 2013-2017ish (it feels so long ago so I could be fucking my numbers up, but still) and I missed a lot of good battlers.
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Post by Alex on Feb 2, 2024 21:18:41 GMT -5
I am going to start the polls up this weekend if there are no more nominations.
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