Bardock
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Post by Bardock on Aug 25, 2023 15:19:27 GMT -5
A long time ago some guy named Jordan revamped his entire tech list before a battle and someone complained (Rem, UT, some bum) and it's been years and we're still suffering.
I'll be honest - every time I try to recruit new members to the site they don't wanna stick around and wait 6 months to complete a tech list or 3 months to get a martial arts uniform.
Anyways what do you guys think?
Increase the limit of how many techs you can learn a week or get rid of the limit entirely
Or whatever changes you propose for the next patch or for a hotfix PLEASE
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Post by Mila on Aug 25, 2023 15:21:12 GMT -5
Get rid of the limit, and put a cool down on when you can do the aggressive battle things (sneaking and jumping) to a real time week.
I'm on board for that.
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Post by Bardock on Aug 25, 2023 15:27:49 GMT -5
Some nub suggested a 50 SP spending limit per week which is like half of your advanced or all of your fundamentals in one update so I'd be fine with that too
But personally I prefer no limit. Only reason the rule got changed was because someone complained and whined about it but no one here is that desperate for a win to do that unless it's against a Bounty (who deserve to be switched up on to stop the players controlling the NPCs from meta-gaming anyways)
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Post by Dr. Ghast on Aug 25, 2023 15:44:01 GMT -5
I'd stick with the 50 SP or 1 tech (for the ones that go over 50 SP), 7 days cooldown for battle jumps/sneaks...
no limit is simply inviting abuse on a site where every damn loophole WILL have abuse at one point or another.
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Post by Goku on Aug 25, 2023 15:51:23 GMT -5
None of these imo.
I think the biggest issue with lifting the limits is someone revamping their entire tech list then initiating a sneak or joining an in progress battle to completely counter an opponent. The easiest fix would be to make a ruling like following:
If you learn more than the current limit (2 fundies, 1 adv) per week, you cannot initiate a sneak or join an in progress battle for 7 real days.
Fixes the issue of revamped tech lists to completely counter an opponent, but allows people to expand their tech lists, especially noobs.
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Post by Yamcha on Aug 25, 2023 15:55:28 GMT -5
Everything here is too complex, and dumb. 50 SP limit for techs per update. Anything that costs more is allowed, but that's the only thing you can learn. No cooldowns because we got enough weird shit. That's 2 or 3 advanced under most masters. That's fine.
Pro: Simple. Easy to track.
Con: idk
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2024 3:34:47 GMT -5
Agreed w/Dabura & Goku
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Post by Shell on Jan 25, 2024 14:09:26 GMT -5
Would the 50 SP cover Weapon techs?
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Post by Yan Cass on Jan 25, 2024 15:26:20 GMT -5
Just don't be like Don and complain he can't learn multiple techniques in a week but then needs to direct trade SP from across his accounts.
I think Weapon Techs over all could use a revamp, especially if we do this. What is the point of needing to spend a week or even two learning one weapon tech? Make them normally learned and give it a higher SP price than 2 lol
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Post by Puar on Jan 25, 2024 17:00:14 GMT -5
Everything here is too complex, and dumb. 50 SP limit for techs per update. Anything that costs more is allowed, but that's the only thing you can learn. No cooldowns because we got enough weird shit. That's 2 or 3 advanced under most masters. That's fine. Pro: Simple. Easy to track. Con: idk Pro: This is a great idea. Con: It hasn't happened yet. And to Riki's point yes, something simply like giving them the same SP costs as Fundies on 1 and 2 and the advanced SP cost on the level 3 and 4s. |
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Post by Korra on Jan 25, 2024 18:43:36 GMT -5
yall dont learn your techs from master trials?
im good either way tbh.
I had enough SP to go from no ki mastery to level 3. the main things im interested in his ki mastery 1-3 and advance fistifuffs. So that's like 5 weeks of training right there. I learn most of my advance/finisher from master trails, which is time consuming in itself, but free. Once i got those specials out the way i start working on power ups. All in all within 3 months of character creation i'm sitting pretty.
Now if you change moves out (which seems what this is about) idk. I'm just saying for new players, it doesn't seem to disrupt the game.
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Post by Nappa on Jan 26, 2024 18:24:07 GMT -5
yall dont learn your techs from master trials? im good either way tbh. I had enough SP to go from no ki mastery to level 3. the main things im interested in his ki mastery 1-3 and advance fistifuffs. So that's like 5 weeks of training right there. I learn most of my advance/finisher from master trails, which is time consuming in itself, but free. Once i got those specials out the way i start working on power ups. All in all within 3 months of character creation i'm sitting pretty. Now if you change moves out (which seems what this is about) idk. I'm just saying for new players, it doesn't seem to disrupt the game. i just looked over your cs and nah... 3 months isnt gonna get you anything, especially if you're leaning on master trials thats 3-4 weeks per free advanced/finisher so 3 months is maybe 4 trials. in a meta where people are learning 15 advanced techs and something like 20 special techniques, not to mention 8 power ups, 20 fundamentals-- you wont have a full tech list for a year i'd know cuz i've been working towards a full tech list since may and i'm not done yet a year for a full tech list is absolutely unreasonable |
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Post by Korra on Jan 26, 2024 19:48:14 GMT -5
yall dont learn your techs from master trials? im good either way tbh. I had enough SP to go from no ki mastery to level 3. the main things im interested in his ki mastery 1-3 and advance fistifuffs. So that's like 5 weeks of training right there. I learn most of my advance/finisher from master trails, which is time consuming in itself, but free. Once i got those specials out the way i start working on power ups. All in all within 3 months of character creation i'm sitting pretty. Now if you change moves out (which seems what this is about) idk. I'm just saying for new players, it doesn't seem to disrupt the game. i just looked over your cs and nah... 3 months isnt gonna get you anything, especially if you're leaning on master trials thats 3-4 weeks per free advanced/finisher so 3 months is maybe 4 trials. in a meta where people are learning 15 advanced techs and something like 20 special techniques, not to mention 8 power ups, 20 fundamentals-- you wont have a full tech list for a year i'd know cuz i've been working towards a full tech list since may and i'm not done yet a year for a full tech list is absolutely unreasonable my current cs isnt even a month old. In 3 updates I've gotten 8 fundamentals, 1 advance, and 2 specials (ki master I/II). My 4th update i'll learn 2 more fundamentals putting me at 10. 5th update I'll learn fisticuffs and my second advance from second trial. I'll also have bought an item that will give me my 11th update. 6th update is travel 7th update is advance fiticuffs 8th update is power up and 3rd advance from trial 9th update is travel 10th update is 2 more funds for 13. 11th update is 2 advance (1 from trial 1 from sp) putting me at 4 advance. 12th is finisher. At this point, 3 months, i have almost all my fundamentals, almost all my advance (before unlocks) and my finisher. I'm lacking Power ups. Even if you add another month in between cuz i don't instant travel/trail as quickly as possible, that's still enough to round out a build. You mention a meta of 15 advance techs and the most i think i've been able to find (aside from site master) is like 8 or 9, so i'd be curious how you are getting 15. I also don't think new players are trying to go for the meta right off the bat, part of the fun of ADBZ is exploring what there is. I think it's perfectly reasonable to take a year to max out your techniques. took roshi 50 years to learn to do the Kamehameha properly  i had a full tech list on korra within 20 updates |
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Post by Nappa on Jan 26, 2024 19:58:02 GMT -5
i just looked over your cs and nah... 3 months isnt gonna get you anything, especially if you're leaning on master trials thats 3-4 weeks per free advanced/finisher so 3 months is maybe 4 trials. in a meta where people are learning 15 advanced techs and something like 20 special techniques, not to mention 8 power ups, 20 fundamentals-- you wont have a full tech list for a year i'd know cuz i've been working towards a full tech list since may and i'm not done yet a year for a full tech list is absolutely unreasonable my current cs isnt even a month old. i had a full tech list on korra within 20 updates our system of technique limits proves you wrong though it genuinely takes closer to 50 updates to fully learn a technique list and thats assuming you arent farming for sp please, everyone in the thread agrees on this and you are wrong. i dont need to look to know your korra does not have a full tech list at 20 updates |
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Post by Bardock on Jan 26, 2024 20:04:11 GMT -5
i just looked over your cs and nah... 3 months isnt gonna get you anything, especially if you're leaning on master trials thats 3-4 weeks per free advanced/finisher so 3 months is maybe 4 trials. in a meta where people are learning 15 advanced techs and something like 20 special techniques, not to mention 8 power ups, 20 fundamentals-- you wont have a full tech list for a year i'd know cuz i've been working towards a full tech list since may and i'm not done yet a year for a full tech list is absolutely unreasonable my current cs isnt even a month old. i had a full tech list on korra within 20 updates Yea nah I gotta agree with Nappa. A full competitive tech list isn't just your basic fundies/advanced/finishers. A full tech list includes fully mastered fundies, fully mastered advanced, multiple finishers, and several special techniques among others. And this doesn't get into all the items/Fighting Style/Passives you need to level up to be competitive too. Your Korra also didn't have a full tech list. You didn't fully master your fundies, didn't master a single advanced tech (or learn all of your advanced), had 0/3 Rushes, and only one finisher. I just think there's so much more that people need to focus on their character getting than farming for techs, like equipment and items and transformation regulations among other things. |
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